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If the Sox come up short, I'm going to look at the collective choke of not being able to go 25-20 the final 45 games for 90 wins. So, go 9-4 and we're all good.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 11:59 AM) No, it doesn't. Changing those results changes every other result in the season as well. They completely control their own destiny and the only teams standing in their way are not named the Royals or the Tigers. Maybe you can say, the Sox went 14-4 against the Twins and 6-12 against the Royals, and that's baseball. Stuff happens. When it comes to a division where high-80's wins it, and you go 6-12 against that team, you pretty much blew it by losing to them. When I set up the Division thread (Road to 91 wins), I had the Tigers winning two more games than the Sox in the final 13 games. So right now I have them both going 88-74. Hopefully the Twins and Royals help us out, and the Sox win tonight. But I don't think the entire season is all about how they play these final two weeks. It's a collective thing, but how you play against teams in your division, particularly the one chasing you or ahead of you does matter because they're twice as important as the rest of the games.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 11:28 AM) I'm sick of people saying "not beating KC will be the reason we lost this division" if we end up second. We're 5-13 against KC and done with them (and Detroit), and we're 2 games up in the division. If you want to cherry pick the 18 KC games out of the schedule, you'd have to change every other result as well, because after certain losing streaks/games the team got up/down for the next one. It's akin to saying "if we had that hit he would have scored". You can't cherry pick like that. Maybe if we won 2/3 in the trip to KC we have a let down somewhere else. This season will be won/lost @Anaheim, vs. TB/Cle and @Cle. Sox went 6-12 against the Tigers and Royals. If they lose the division, of course it has a lot to do with losing to these teams. They shouldn't HAVE to go to Anaheim in late September and win 2 of 3. They shouldn't HAVE to beat the Rays 3 of 4 if the Tigers sweep the Twins and/or Royals.

Sox vs KC 1-1 (0-2) -1 vs Oak 2-1 (2-1) -1 at Tor 2-2 (3-1) E at KC 2-1 (0-3) -2 vs NY 2-1 (3-0) -1 vs Sea 2-1 (3-0) E at Bal 2-2 (1-3) -1 at Det 1-2 (0-3) -2 vs Min 2-1 (2-1) -2 vs KC 2-1 (1-2) -3 vs Det 1-2 (1-2) -3 at Min 2-1 (3-0) -2 vs Det 1-0 (1-0) -2 at KC 2-1 (1-2) -3 at LAA 1-2 Peavy, Quintana, Floyd vs Cle 2-1 Sale, Liriano, Peavy vs TB 2-2 Quintana, Floyd, Sale, Liriano at Cle 2-1 Peavy, Quintana, Floyd Tigers vs NY 2-2 (2-2) E at Tex 1-2 (1-2) E at Min 2-1 (2-1) E vs Bal 2-1 (1-2) -1 vs Tor 2-1 (3-0) E vs LAA 2-1 (2-1) E at KC 2-1 (0-3) -2 vs Chi 2-1 (3-0) -1 vs Cle 2-1 (1-2) -2 at LAA 1-2 (0-3) -3 at Chi 2-1 (2-1) -3 at Cle 2-1 (2-1) -3 at Chi 0-1 (0-1) -3 vs Oak 2-1 (2-1) -3 vs Min 2-1 Porcello, Fister, Scherzer vs KC 3-1 Verlander, Sanchez, Porcello, Fister at Min 2-1 Scherzer, Verlander, Sanchez at KC 2-1 Porcello, Fister, Scherzer All I can say is Go Sox/Go Royals.

It always seems like when you intentionally walk the bases loaded, bad things happen.

Smyly coming in.

Bases loaded, one out.

And another single. Get them over.

Lead off single.

Oak up 6-4 going to the top of the 9th. Cabrera would be up 4th in the bottom. Insurance please.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 04:31 PM) It will remain very difficult for the Tigers to "Go on a run" because if they try to do so, their defense will wind up costing them a game somewhere. Their longest win streak of the year is 6 games. And they also had a stretch where they went 13-2. I'm not saying the Tigers will do this again, but it's still a day by day thing. They're home 9 more games, and at KC and Minnesota to finish. They're certainly in a good position to win a lot of games still. But they'll probably find a way to lose at least 3 or 4 more games.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 03:36 PM) Vs. Santana, Haren, Weaver Let's win the next 3, so we don't have to worry about Saturday or Sunday. That is, unless the Tigers go on a run too. A 2-game lead going into the final 10 would be good with me.

Yankees PPD. Doubleheader tomorrow. Let's hope the Sox luck out the final 10 days. KC looks good, and Anaheim is Anaheim.

Might not be bad being the 3-seed. Sale and Peavy pitching at home against the Orioles or Yankees. I'd take that.

The game is on regular CSN. They switched it for the better team in town.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 18, 2012 -> 10:35 AM) 82.3 + 21.6 = 103. 9? That includes the division and wildcard. So there's a 3.9% chance both make it. Coolstandings has the Sox at 84.4% to win the division. http://www.coolstandings.com/baseball_stan...sn=2012&i=1

Sox vs KC 1-1 (0-2) -1 vs Oak 2-1 (2-1) -1 at Tor 2-2 (3-1) E at KC 2-1 (0-3) -2 vs NY 2-1 (3-0) -1 vs Sea 2-1 (3-0) E at Bal 2-2 (1-3) -1 at Det 1-2 (0-3) -2 vs Min 2-1 (2-1) -2 vs KC 2-1 (1-2) -3 vs Det 1-2 (1-2) -3 at Min 2-1 (3-0) -2 vs Det 1-0 (1-0) -2 at KC 2-1 Floyd, Sale, Liriano at LAA 1-2 Peavy, Quintana, Floyd vs Cle 2-1 Sale, Liriano, Peavy vs TB 2-2 Quintana, Floyd, Sale, Liriano at Cle 2-1 Peavy, Quintana, Floyd Tigers vs NY 2-2 (2-2) E at Tex 1-2 (1-2) E at Min 2-1 (2-1) E vs Bal 2-1 (1-2) -1 vs Tor 2-1 (3-0) E vs LAA 2-1 (2-1) E at KC 2-1 (0-3) -2 vs Chi 2-1 (3-0) -1 vs Cle 2-1 (1-2) -2 at LAA 1-2 (0-3) -3 at Chi 2-1 (2-1) -3 at Cle 2-1 (2-1) -3 at Chi 0-1 (0-1) -3 vs Oak 2-1 Scherzer, Verlander, Sanchez vs Min 2-1 Porcello, Fister, Scherzer vs KC 3-1 Verlander, Sanchez, Porcello, Fister at Min 2-1 Scherzer, Verlander, Sanchez at KC 2-1 Porcello, Fister, Scherzer Sox are in great position. They go 11-5, Sox go 9-7. Sox win the division.

Looks like the Sox will face Haren and Weaver in the Angels series, and not Wilson or Greinke. Probably Weaver and Floyd on Sunday.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 10:43 AM) Why is De Aza out again? Gonzales tweeted... http://twitter.com/MDGonzales/status/247720945932988416

AL East: NY 83-63 - Bal 82-64 1.0 TB 78-68 5.0 AL Wildcard: Oak 84-62 +2 Bal 82-64 -- LAA 79-67 3.0 TB 78-68 4.0 Det 77-68 4.5 Remaining Series: Yankees- vs Tor, vs Oak, at Min, at Tor, vs Bos Orioles- at Sea, at Bos, vs Tor, vs Bos, at TB Rays- vs Bos, vs Tor, at Bos, at Sox, vs Bal Angels- vs Tex, vs Sox, vs Sea, at Tex, at Sea A's- at Det, at NY, at Tex, vs Sea, vs Tex Very tough schedule for Oakland, but they made it this far. Orioles too...they're in good position, but I have a feeling the Angels aren't done. It would be great if the Yankees missed the playoffs in the first year of 2 wild cards.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 16, 2012 -> 05:42 PM) http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings 71.9% again for Sox. Down to 36.5% for Tigers. Armaggedon tomrw. Maybe the Sox will actually relax, knowing that they will go into the last two weeks of the season with at least a 1 game lead. Pressure squarely back onto the backs of the Tigers to not go 3 games down with 15 left. Orioles cooling off the A's finally today. Except we should also be cheering for the A's because the O's are closer just in case we need the 2nd WC. Division-wise, it's 68.8 to 31.2. If the Tigers win tomorrow, I'd put that at 58/42 Sox. If the Sox win, it's probably 81/19.

Sox vs KC 1-1 (0-2) -1 vs Oak 2-1 (2-1) -1 at Tor 2-2 (3-1) E at KC 2-1 (0-3) -2 vs NY 2-1 (3-0) -1 vs Sea 2-1 (3-0) E at Bal 2-2 (1-3) -1 at Det 1-2 (0-3) -2 vs Min 2-1 (2-1) -2 vs KC 2-1 (1-2) -3 vs Det 1-2 (1-2) -3 at Min 2-1 (3-0) -2 vs Det 1-0 Quintana at KC 2-1 Floyd, Sale, Liriano at LAA 1-2 Peavy, Quintana, Floyd vs Cle 2-1 Sale, Liriano, Peavy vs TB 2-2 Quintana, Floyd, Sale, Liriano at Cle 2-1 Peavy, Quintana, Floyd Tigers vs NY 2-2 (2-2) E at Tex 1-2 (1-2) E at Min 2-1 (2-1) E vs Bal 2-1 (1-2) -1 vs Tor 2-1 (3-0) E vs LAA 2-1 (2-1) E at KC 2-1 (0-3) -2 vs Chi 2-1 (3-0) -1 vs Cle 2-1 (1-2) -2 at LAA 1-2 (0-3) -3 at Chi 2-1 (2-1) -3 at Cle 2-1 (2-1) -3 at Chi 0-1 Fister vs Oak 2-1 Scherzer, Verlander, Sanchez vs Min 2-1 Porcello, Fister, Scherzer vs KC 3-1 Verlander, Sanchez, Porcello, Fister at Min 2-1 Scherzer, Verlander, Sanchez at KC 2-1 Porcello, Fister, Scherzer

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Sep 16, 2012 -> 04:35 PM) The sox website have Q listed to start tomorrow...thats not the case right?? That's right. They changed it on Friday. Det- Quintana KC- Floyd, Sale, Liriano LAA-Peavy, Quintana, Floyd Cle- Sale, Liriano, Peavy TB- Quintana, Floyd, Sale, Liriano Cle- Peavy, Quintana, Floyd Sale would be in line for Game 1 of the ALDS or 163 at Detroit.

Cabrera 3-run homer. 6-5 Det.

Did what they had to do. 14-4 season series trouncing of the Twins... Approved.