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Braves 0-12 on Monday's. Outscored 61-15.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 10:09 PM) KW only wants a top of the line pitcher, even if its only a rental. He sees no point in getting a marginal pitcher. I believe he wants Greinke. He's facing Philadelphia tomorrow. I would imagine the Sox will have scouts there.

Nice job by Floyd. Good to see the lumber, especially PK.

Let's get a pitcher, and maybe upgrade at 2B, and go for the wild card. Because that's all we got.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 03:06 PM) 1. I much prefer this to the Ozzie-generated random lineup generator. 2. This regular lineup was clicking along nicely until this road trip. Changing it now is silly and will make things worse, not better. 3. That all said, I do think Dunn needs a day off, and this seems as good a game as any. It's subjective and hard to argue. In this case, I don't see how having different lineups vs lefties and righties is going to be a slap in the face to these guys. They're supposed to be professionals. Even if it's flipping Dunn and Rios and Viciedo and AJ against lefties, it shouldn't be a big deal. Finding every little edge throughout the season is what separates playoff teams from teams that go home.

Can't wait for the Sox to miss the second wildcard by one game because Ventura refused to make lineup adjustments.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) can we trade peavy :/ Would 1-5 this week do it for you?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 01:28 PM) The question is does 88-74 get the 2nd wild card? 75% chance, probably. 39-28 would get the sox to 89 wins, which historically is the average 2nd wildcard number. What these teams would have to do to get to 89: Bal 51-44 (38-29) Oak 51-44 (38-29) Sox 50-45 (39-28) TB 49-47 (40-26) Tor 48-47 (41-26) Bos 48-48 (41-25) Cle 47-48 (42-25) I'm thinking the Angels are going to separate themselves a little, and probably get to 90-92 wins. These remaining teams...it may only take 87 or 88.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 01:09 PM) All they can hope is Liriano walks the yard. Or he gets traded sometime in the next 6 hours.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 12:55 PM) Then you wonder how long Sale and Quintana is going to hold up. Hitting and confidence in the pen is the bigger ? to me. I doubt the 71 Orioles staff could win with this group right now. I want to see how Humber does on his next start. Even before this series the Tigers were putting up a lot of runs against the Angels. The sad thing is the Tigers have lot more for negotiating trades than the Sox. I'd rather see Humber replaced before the weekend. We've seen enough. At the very least, they need to get a replacement level guy on par with Floyd. If Danks returns healthy, that could put the Sox over the top for postseason baseball, but I'm not counting on him coming back.

I like Escobar. Dump Hudson.

39-28 the rest of the season starts tonight. vs Min 2-1 at Tex 1-2 at Min 2-1 vs LAA 2-1 vs KC 2-1 vs Oak 2-1 at Tor 2-2 at KC 2-1 vs NY 2-1 vs Sea 2-1 at Bal 2-2 at Det 1-2 vs Min 2-1 vs KC 2-1 vs Det 2-2 at Min 2-1 at KC 2-1 at LAA 1-2 vs Cle 2-1 vs TB 2-2 at Cle 2-1

I'm going to make this plain...the Tigers are going to be the better team the rest of the season. The three best teams in the AL are the Yankees, Rangers, and Tigers, and that won't change. That said, the White Sox are sitting pretty in their other division...the Wild Card Division. There are eight teams in this division---Angels, A's, Orioles, White Sox, Rays, Blue Jays, Red Sox, and Indians. All of these teams are within 4 games of each other, with 66 or 67 games left each. The top 2 teams in this division get to play each other to make the playoffs on October 5. Now to the breakdown of each of these teams schedules for the rest of the season... To be brief, let's lump the Yankees, Rangers, and Tigers together. (Top) Let's also lump the Twins, Royals, and Mariners together. (Bottom) And then the rest...head-to-head among the 8 teams in contention for these 2 spots. (HTH) (Home-Away-Total) Angels (35-31-66): Top: 6-10-16 Bottom: 9-9-18 HTH: 20-12-32 A's (31-36-67): Top: 3-10-13 Bottom: 6-6-12 HTH: 22-20-42 Orioles (36-31-67): Top: 4-12-16 Bottom: 7-3-10 HTH: 25-16-41 White Sox (35-32-67): Top: 7-6-13 Bottom: 15-12-27 HTH: 13-14-27 Rays (28-38-66): Top: 6-6-12 Bottom: 3-6-9 HTH: 19-26-45 Blue Jays (36-31-67): Top: 12-9-21 Bottom: 6-3-9 HTH: 18-19-37 Red Sox (28-38-66): Top: 9-12-21 Bottom: 8-3-11 HTH: 11-23-34 Indians (33-34-67): Top: 12-9-21 Bottom: 9-16-25 HTH: 12-9-21 Just looking at this, the Sox are in good position playing the worst teams the most, and the best teams only 13 games. The Rays only have 6 left with NY and 6 left with the Rangers....they can play their way back into it, but they have a ton on the road. The A's have been pulling games out at the end, and I don't see that continuing for the next 10 weeks. The Orioles, I expect to hit the skids, but who knows. The Red Sox are getting offensive players back, but will the pitching ever hit a groove? The Angels are a good team, and they'll be there at the end. The Indians are under .500, and I hesitated even including them. Same with the Blue Jays who have injury problems. I hope this makes you feel better about the Sox chances. The 67-Game sprint begins tomorrow. I think if the Sox can go 39-28, they'll make it to the extra game.

Oakland sweeps the Yankees 4 straight. That's not good for the Sox, but good for them.

Indians are under .500, if anyone cares. Also, I'm in favor of the Twins trading Liriano in the next 24 hours.

If the A's beat the Yankees in extra innings, and the Rangers beat the Angels tonight, the wild card teams will be Baltimore and Oakland. This makes me feel a little better about the Sox situation. If the best they can do is get one of those spots, I'll take it.

Yep, good for Quentin. He's from there. Nice place to live and raise a family. And when he's rehabbing his next injury, he can stay at home.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) I they could get a nice package for Dunn (probably a NL team), I'm all for it. In a NY second.

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Monday: Liriano- Floyd Tuesday: Devries- Quintana Wednesday: Blackburn- Peavy Seriously, 2 out of 3, or bust. Friday: Sale- Darvish Saturday: Humber- Harrison Sunday: Floyd- Oswalt Expecting to get swept. Maybe a trade happens before then.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 03:43 PM) I don't want KW as part of a rebuilding. If they don't make the postseason KW needs to go. That almost goes without saying. Long overdue. They should have cleaned house after last season.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) It would be viewed as White Flag II You know White Flag '97 was bulls***, right? The 97 Sox weren't going to win that division. And if the Sox are 52-48 a week from now, I'll have no confidence in this team to get to the postseason. Unfortunately, that second wild card will fool everyone into thinking they're in it. Obviously, Kenny isn't going to sell. I would want him to, but he won't. Right now, I'm very worried about what Peavy and Sale can do the rest of the season. They've been great, but we're seeing velocity go down for Sale, and location problems for Peavy. And the offense has been nothing short of terrible. Ventura doesn't make any adjustments. So we'll lose because that's what they deserve.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 03:25 PM) That would set this franchise back 5 years. No, not really.

Let's shut down Sale, and trade Youkilis, Crain, Thornton, Peavy, Floyd, and Myers. (This is my post a week from now after going 2-4)

Memo to Kenny: DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID