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Well, that was ugly.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 10:01 PM) Without Kotsay, we get swept in Baltimore No we don't. In the game we won, all Kotsay did was get thrown out on an attempt for a double.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:59 PM) If we had resigned Thome though, there might not have been a roster spot for Kotsay Oh no! Not Kotsay!

QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:53 PM) He must hate him? Geezus... This is how rumors start. No... Ozzie does NOT hate Thome. He repeatedly over and over talks about how much respect he (and the entire organization) has for Thome. The bottom line is that he (and probably Kenny) felt they didn't want to disrespect Thome by bringing him back for a pittance this season after the big contract he had here... and then have him only play in a reserve role. They felt it would be an uncomfortable situation for everyone. In situations like that, it's easier to have someone move on and let the new team make that decision. The mistake the Sox made was in thinking Thome's skills might be diminishing more/faster than they have. So then why did Jim take a next to nothing deal to play in a DH platoon for the Twins?

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:53 PM) Come on boys....don't stop now! 8 runs before we get 3 outs and this game is a winner!!! Only the 2001 Indians did a feat like that.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:48 PM) Lol - wake up, indeed! Take your own medicine, buddy. 5th starters aren't hired to beat "aces". Aces are meant and paid to beat aces. 5th starters are meant to eat up innings over the course of a 162 game season and, hopefully, try and win in the double digit column in the process. Freddy has done that going into tonight's game, winning as I mentioned ten games through just two thirds of the season. I'll do a little math for you and let you in on the secret that he's on pace for a 15 game win season, which would be absolutely superb for a 5th starter. So as far as Freddy's performance as a 5th starter goes, he's been as good as anyone could have hoped for, tonight's unfortunate outcome notwithstanding. Freddy did his part as a 5th starter in the first half. This second half's been just bad though.

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:45 PM) It is falling and for all you Pena fans out there, your boy did it again. They had momentum going into the 3rd and Pena took it all away. Like he does again and again and again. Why the hell are you all on Tony Pena for? He mops up bad situations.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:45 PM) Well, we know Ozzie thought Thome wasn't "mean" enough and the clubhouse suffered as a result. He wanted more grinders! As Ozzie said, good guys finish last. He thought Thome's niceness would disrupt this team's badass-ness. Unfortunately, baseball is not WRASTLING.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:33 PM) Before the game, wasn't Ozzie saying something about how he couldn't have Thome on this roster? What a joke he is at times (when it comes to his stupid man-crushes) Yup, I heard it on Boers and Bernstein, Bernstein brought up Thome's numbers and I just shook my head. .404 wOBA...would be second best on the team right behind Konerko.

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/index.p...er-think-again/ Nice article about run scoring, or lackthereof this year.

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:03 PM) Does this mean the Sox will have precedence over any player placed on waivers assuming the Twins hang on tonight? Yeah, think so.

I kind of want to see our guys hit one of these Twins hitters with two outs. This team needs some fire.

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 08:02 PM) What parallel universe are you silly sox fans watching Pena on. He's the biggest rally killer on the team. Pena's actually done pretty well in long relief situations.

So are those people who said Thome sucked because he constantly hit into the shift thinking about it differently now?

We're as boneheaded as our manager.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 07:35 PM) nice brawl right now CIN vs. STL ANOTHER ONE?

Looks like our s***ty play carried over from Baltimore.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 07:30 PM) yeah and a steal by Rios would only ensure it with a base open. So it was a completely moot point and you risk getting yourself out.

Hey, Ozzie, I love your ideas. Steal in front of your best hitter while giving your biggest rival one of their best hitters in the off-season. GENIUS!

Stealing in the early stages is a bad thing. This is true in life and in baseball. They were surely going to pitch around Konerko...

Looks like bad Freddy is on display tonight.

And what do you know? A fight breaks out... Cueto was kicking people with his spikes. He'll surely get in trouble.

QUOTE (Felix @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 06:32 PM) f*** the Twins Let's get it!

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 04:48 PM) Am I missing something? I don't think he said anything about the 'race' card in there. His comments were more that of his own teammate.. Joey Votto... except Votto hates the Cubs much more than the Cards. (Phillips is the opposite) Phillips was also a lot more explicit in his words. The whole Hunter/Hudson thing was me trying to say he's being out of line with his comments.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 03:51 PM) Probably ought to post this somewhere. Brandon Phillips with a Torii Hunter/Orlando Hudson moment.