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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 04:15 PM) .289/67/192 Wouldn't it suck if those numbers were Dunn's OBP, RBI, and Ks? Scary thought...

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 03:16 PM) Will Ohman has narrowed it down to 3 AL teams. He is a real good strikeout pitcher, who had a good 2010, he just needs to fix that walk issue he has. I'd like Will Ohman. He can allow the team to put Sale in the rotation if necessary.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Is anyone in professional sports? If you think about it that way, then no. But I'm not talking about it that way.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) How about Freddie Garcia again? He's gonna get a decent amount of money. He's certainly not worth whatever he might get paid.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 02:20 PM) What'd Gorzellany making in 2011? $1M+? Meh. He's cheap, but I'd rather get a bullpen arm. I'd love for the Sox to get Jeff Samardzija with the Cubs kicking most of the money, and use Samardzija in the pen as a long reliever/spot starter with Sale in AAA starting. But most of this has to do with me being a huge Notre Dame fan and being friends with the Samardzija family. Gorzelanny made 800K last year. He won't make more than $2 million, I think.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/01/whit...el-soriano.html Looks like we'll be waiting for a real good bargain.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) I've seen him play more than that game. I don't know his UZR or Range Factor, but I know if he was on the Sox this board would hate his defense. I've seen him play against the Sox and I've never seen anything to make me think the advanced metrics are wrong. He's a very athletic player. I even remember him robbing someone of a home run at the Cell back in 09.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) Adrian Beltre just got $96 million. I've figured it all out. Guys like Beltre and Holliday sacrificed their balls in order to get high UZRs. It's so simple!

QUOTE (DOWNTOWN PANTHER @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) I have never posted any opinion of mine on Dusty, but I will say that I was very pleased with him this season. Reds fans are fast to second guess and pound on the manager for his ability to manage a pitching staff and lineup. This season was no exception. I think that Dusty did a tremendous job of managing the staff and pen. I look simply at wins and losses, and this year he had a big impact. For this team he is a perfect candidate IMO. Right now the Reds have a very solid fusion of young talent and veteran leadership which Dusty blended very nicely. In 2011 I think the Reds are the team to beat in the Central. I think Dusty can make a run this year at October baseball, and the staff has a very high ceiling. He definately is a risk taker. Thats not a bad thing though. You won't be saying any of this when Johnny Cueto, Edinson Volquez, and Aroldis Chapman are regular DL members in a couple of years because of how much Dusty will overuse them. Just ask Cubs fans.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) I love the Reds. Post more, my friend. Anyway, could we get Chapman for Juan Pierre? I promise you he's really good. He hits a lot of sexy singles and steals a lot of bases. He would be an upgrade in LF. I promise. Cross my heart and hope to die. He's also a very good teammate. Lots of chemistry!

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:43 PM) I don't know about the Cardinals, their offense should be better, but man that OF defense is going to be bad with Berkman & Holliday. Colby is gonna be busy. Holliday's not a bad fielder. I hate how that one ball he took off the crotch in the NLDS gives people the impression he's bad at fielding.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:44 PM) I'd much rather have Sale in the 5th starter's spot than Gorzelanny until Peavy returns, both as a better starter and for his future development. Then you lose one of your best bullpen arms for a month or two.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:42 PM) Don't we have Pena [gulp] to fill this role? And I hate Pena. We're kind of short in the bullpen right now. Plus, Gorzelanny's an actual starter. Pena's just an emergency one.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) FAIL The metal band. I am metalally retarded. Sorry.

Since the Cubs have an extra starter in their rotation now, it might be possible to steal one away from them. I'm looking at Tom Gorzelanny. He's cheap, he's versatile, and he was pretty damn good last year. It seems like the Cubs don't like him all that much. He was dangled at the trade deadline last year, but for whatever reason, he stayed put. Gorzo can slot into the 5th spot in the rotation until Peavy returns. When Peavy returns, he can be the long or left handed middle reliever in the bullpen. It's a move that makes a lot of sense. He won't make more than a couple million this year and is arb-eligible for either two or three more seasons. As for who to send to the Cubs...at the most, you probably give away somebody like Santos Rodriguez. At the least, a couple of raw A or AA players. Gorzelanny's numbers last year: 136.1 INN, 4.09 ERA, 3.92 FIP.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 09:31 AM) Fiscally responsible and the Yankees? HA! Cashman's trying to play it stingy this off-season to non-returning and non-ultra important icon ex Yankees this year. He said he wouldn't give up his first round pick for Balfour, Soriano, or Pavano.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) cubs got a younger version of Javier Vazquez. He's like the opposite of Javy. Javy was great peripherals, mediocre ERA. Garza is decent ERA, mediocre peripherals.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) You actually know Cubs fans that aren't baseball stupid? I'm looking at Cots. It says he has 3 arb years remaining. His service time is only at 2.149. I thought he had been around longer than that for some reason. Yes, surprisingly.

Since the Cubs now have an abundance of starters, anyone think Kenny can call Hendry up and ask him for Gorzelanny? He's going to be relatively cheap for the next two seasons, can start, can be a long reliever, also grew up as a Sox fan. Not to mention he put up nice numbers last year in the very role we need somebody in right now (somebody to start until Peavy comes back).

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 12:38 PM) And your thoughts on GWAR? Great Wars are Remembered?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) He does. So wouldn't he only be arb-eligible for two more years? Or is his service time not over 5 after the next two years?

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 12:34 PM) under arbitration control for 3 more seasons including 2011, which makes it a better deal for the Cubs. Again, mixed on this from the Cubs... they get a good young pitcher who they control money wise for 3 years and could always buy a year or two of that for an extra year or so. However, on paper I just don't see how it helps them compete in a more significant way this year. I like it far more as a 2012-13 move than 2011, but then they're going to have to replace guys coming off the books, grant it many of them are old and not fantastic, but unless something drastic happens the Ricketts won't have mega money to spend and even if you do, as the NYY proved this year, money doesn't always win out. I thought Garza already has one year of arb-eligible season under his belt.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) Can't deny this is a good move for the Cubs, too. But they're still a distant 4th behind the Reds, Brewers and Cardinals. A lot of the Cubs fans I know who aren't baseball stupid hate it. Perhaps they're overrating their own prospects, but I think they know this team isn't good enough right now to go and try to compete this year. Hendry's probably gonna sign Garza to an extension, which would be stupid considering Garza isn't the type of pitcher you should build around.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 11:19 AM) More than one publication compares Archer to everyone's friend here, Edwin Jackson. I like the deal for the Cubs. Edwin Jackson was once one of the best prospects in baseball. I'd say Jackson's about as good as Garza and still has room to improve. They're pretty similar pitchers, but Jackson's ceiling is higher. Mostly because Edwin actually has a very good out pitch in his slider. Garza's just fastballs blazing.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 11:10 AM) Well, twice if you use bWAR, which I find to be more accurate for pitchers than fWAR. I think he's safely a 3-win pitcher. But you're right, not an elite guy. I was gonna say more than 3.2, but I got lazy. He's usually been around the 3 win mark. He probably had his best aesthetic year last season with the 15 wins and the no hitter, but realistically, he wasn't all that good in terms of peripherals. I think Hendry got tricked by the wins, the no hitter, and Garza's slightly deceiving ERA. Watch him give Garza a 4 year extension soon.