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QUOTE (longshot7 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 11:46 AM) DH? I'm really in favor of getting a RF who can make Quentin the full-time DH. Quentin's bad defense and his ability to get hurt on just about every play worries me. Unless it's Dunn or Fielder, impact bats that should DH, I don't see a reason for us to DH anybody else that's not named Quentin if we get a player at the deadline.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 11:50 AM) Of the available SP's, who makes sense? Edwin Jackson; Jake Westbrook, if the sox want to add salary. Carmona, but he's going to cost a lot more than the two you just mentioned.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 04:16 AM) For the White Sox to have acquired Haren, we would have had to give up more than Hudson. It would have been Floyd...undoubtedly, after DiPoto asking for Danks and getting shot down summarily. The other package of players at the back end of the deal wouldn't have mattered as much (for 2010) as losing Floyd from the rotation, and POSSIBLY getting better results from Haren, but also an even more bloated payroll with less flexibility. From the DiamondBacks' beat writer, AZ Republic With about a half hour before my connecting flight to Philadelphia departs, I figured I should weigh in on the collective online bashing interim GM Jerry Dipoto is receiving for using LHP Joe Saunders’ winning percentage as justification for acquiring him in yesterday’s Dan Haren deal. I’m not going to defend it, exactly, but I think I know where he was coming from and what he was trying to express. First, if I were sitting up at that podium yesterday, that’s not the approach I would have taken. Dipoto could have focused on Saunders being an innings eater, durable, proven, talked about his left-handedness and how that helps match up with some of the division’s better hitters, like Adrian Gonzalez and Andre Ethier. He could have talked about Saunders being two years away from free agency, about the Diamondbacks getting him out of the American League and into the National League, where they believe he will have a chance to post better numbers. He said some of those things, but the thing he seemed to keep coming back to was winning games, something he mentioned again when talking about LHP Pat Corbin, who he said leads the minors in wins. Having known Dipoto for several years now and having talked to him a lot recently about the state of the organization, I can tell you he seems focused on trying to create a winning atmosphere with this team. He talks about getting winning players, guys who hate to lose. I take it as being his way of indirectly indicting the current group of players and/or of a general malaise that he believes has set in around this club. I don’t think Dipoto needs anyone to explain to him that winning percentage maybe isn’t the best way to statistically evaluate a pitcher’s performance. What Dipoto wants to do is create a culture around this club that’s similar to that of consistently strong organizations like, say, the Los Angeles Angels. He wants everyone to feel like they’re a part of something bigger than themselves, like they’re all building something together, like winning is expected when they arrive to the ballpark, etc. Say what you want about that mind-set and whether it matters as much as just simply getting better players. That’s a whole ‘nother debate. But I’m pretty sure Dipoto knows a pitcher who goes 7-13 with a 3.00 ERA on a losing team is probably pitching better than the one who goes 15-5 with a 5.00 ERA for a winning team. Again, not a great tack to take at the press conference yesterday, but, for what it’s worth, that’s what I think he thinks. Danks is twice, if not thrice the pitcher that Saunders is. God I wish some teams would have better player evaluation and people in charge who knew who is good and who isn't.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 11:44 PM) For those of you who were wondering of Jerry Dipoto is an idiot... yeah, he's an idiot. This is his measuring stick of what a great pitcher is: “We achieved by maintaining major league quality with a 2008 All-Star in Joe Saunders and a guy who quite frankly has been one of the winners in Major League Baseball,” Dipoto said. “I think he trails only Roy Halladay(notes) among major leaguers in total wins. He’s won 63 percent of his games since coming to the major leagues… “ http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_leagu...?urn=mlb-258239 That just might be him trying to justify why he traded their best pitcher away for a mediocre 4th starter and no can't-miss prospects. You know, to the average baseball folk, wins are important. Just ask what Hawk and Stone think of Saunders.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 11:36 AM) Ken Rosenthal Ken_Rosenthal #WhiteSox remain focused on Dunn, but laying groundwork for SP. Hudson pitches Friday. If he flops again, team could shift course. #MLB Trade for Jackson. See how Hudson does on Friday. Depending on that, decide whether to keep Jackson or flip him for Dunn?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) White Sox: Kelly Johnson The White Sox seem to be focused on a basher, but it's not really what they need. They need a table-setter. Chicago hits plenty of home runs. The problem is outs; White Sox hitters just don't get on base nearly enough, so they end up hitting solo homer after solo homer. Thus, Johnson fits the Sox in just about every way. For most of his career -- not just in this, a career season he's having for the D-backs -- he's gotten on base at a good clip -- save for his disastrous '09 season that ended his tenure in Atlanta. His left-handed bat would provide much-needed balance in a heavily right-handed Chicago lineup. The Sox's current second baseman, Gordon Beckham, just isn't getting the job done offensively. And it's hard to imagine the Snakes, who traded Haren on Sunday, won't continue to be sellers over the next few days. If in fact the Diamondbacks are going to be sellers between now and Saturday, they have a number of intriguing players to offer. Shortstop Stephen Drew could be a great fit in St. Louis, catcher Miguel Montero has drawn a great deal of interest in the past, and there's reportedly even some interest in reliever Chad Qualls. But Johnson looks like the best fit for the White Sox -- even if it means buying high on a player enjoying a career year. He'd be a significant upgrade at a position of weakness, while also addressing Chicago's largest club-wide offensive issue. In fairness, a player such as Prince Fielder or Adam Dunn would also address the OBP issue for the Sox while simultaneously providing even more power. But Johnson might come cheaper than those players, and his defensive versatility would be a plus as well. Still, it seems the Sox aren't looking at table-setters, but instead at thumpers. "Same list. Same targets," general manager Ken Williams told reporters recently. MLB.COM Pretty sad that they're about 2-3 weeks late in noticing that Gordon Beckham finally heated up...and was playing at a level not requiring a replacement. Johnson's always been a good offensive player, but like you said, where the hell would he play? His defense isn't good and he's played the OF before to no avail.

I'm on the fence about T-Mac. I actually don't care. If he's good, great. If he's bad, release him. You're not paying him anything more than vet's minimum anyways.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 10:16 AM) it is really crazy that Wakamatsu is batting Lopez cleanup with his .236/.268/.334 line. at this point you might as well say f*** it and put Ichiro there and give him as many opportunities possible to drive in runs Wakamatsu's not a smart guy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 10:01 AM) This team could definitely benefit from help. This team could also win the division without help. This team could also lose the division without help. This team could also acquire help and still lose the division. This team could also be made worse both this year and next if they pay too high of a price for help. These ideas are not mutually exclusive. However, this is not a defense of postgame caller rants. Now you're sounding like Chris Rongey.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 05:24 PM) I can now say I'm worth more than Mark Kotsay! Where's my million bucks? I want some free money too.

Erik Manning's take: http://palehosepariah.wordpress.com/2010/0...-hall-of-famer/ He writes a nice little sabr blog on the Sox BTW, also used to write for FanGraphs. I'm kind of on the ledge about Omar and the hall. I think he will get in because of the gold gloves, but whether or not he deserves it...I don't know. Defense is one thing, but offense is another. Vizquel was never a very good offensive player. He was always average to below average, but since he played SS and played great defense there, below average offense was more than acceptable.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 09:02 PM) Kieth Law ws tweeting that Vizquel was nowhere near the SS Jeter is/was. I unfollowed him. HUH? Jeter's had one, count 'em, one good year defensively at shortstop. Omar Vizquel has had countless seasons where he was absolutely brilliant there. Sure, he's not the same guy anymore, but Derek Jeter's always been the poster child of overrated defense. I would think a guy like Law, who does look at advanced stats, would actually understand that.

It was nice to see a sellout yesterday. We need more on this homestand.

I really can't believe there are some people out there that don't think this team needs help. They must not be watching the games since all they do is call into the postgame show and ramble on about nonsensical crap.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 09:06 AM) Chris Coghlan shreds his knee and will probably need surgery...after delivering a pie to the face of Wes Helms after an 11th inning walkoff hit. What the hell is up with all these celebration injuries?

Rowland-Smith really is as bad as his ERA suggests. He has a 1:1 BB/K ratio resulting in a 6.53 FIP. It's really hard to have an FIP around 6...

It's good to get back on the winning track.

Bout time the Rays got a no hitter. They've had 3 against them.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 07:13 PM) OMG what did Figgins sign for again?? 3 and 30?? I had no idea he was hitting that bad, that is absolutely brutal 4 and 36.

QUOTE (b-Rye @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 06:48 PM) How about Mark Teahen/Dan Hudson/Jordan Danks for Chone Figgins/Russel Branyan 3b figgins 2b beckham cf rios 1b konerko rf quentin dh branyan ss ramirez c aj p lf pierre carlos torres called up for hudson. Haha no. Have you seen Figgins this year? He's hitting the ball with zero authority. I'm kind of glad we didn't give him 4 and 36.

QUOTE (TomPickle @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 06:34 PM) The base image. Now this is a real meme. No offense Quinarvy.

Kenny likes his trade deadlines quiet. Of course the team writer wouldn't say a peep.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 06:06 PM) Really? I don't see it on the schedule anywhere. I think he then forgot about his roots on Sunday when he gave up doubles to MCab and Raburn to give Detroit that victory. Hmm, you're right. I can't seem to find that either. Edit: Marcum pitched in the DH on Sunday, so if he were to pitch on Wednesday, he would be going on 3 days' rest. So that's why Mills is getting called up.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 06:04 PM) It's be interesting to hear/read how many games Kotsay and Jones have been truly instrumental in us winning the game and how that compares to Thome last year. I'm just curious more than anything ... and how many games Kotsay started and of those starts how many he could be credited as "contributing to the victory." As well as how many losses his at bats proved to be him being the obvious goat. All I have to say is that Kotsay has negatively contributed to the team on the field. I hear he's a good guy in the clubhouse, but I can't quantify that effect, I can only qualify it. Thing is, Kotsay being on the team isn't the problem. Kotsay playing DH and batting 6th almost every day is.