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I wrote this about Abreu today for those interested: https://theloopsports.com/2017/12/01/jose-a...-for-white-sox/

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) Besides him screwing up the process, that's also another awful hire. I clamored for Leach at Illinois, but he would get destroyed at a program like Tennessee. Completely disagree. Leach would be fine there. The guy can coach. Would have been a blessing for that program.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) That deal would really be a disappointment, for me. Very underwhelming. I'll bet that doesn't get it done. Which deal would be a disappointment?

This is an excellent piece by Eno Sarris at The Athletic about why Oakland shouldn't trade for Avi: https://theathletic.com/170936/2017/12/01/h...avisail-garcia/

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 10:44 AM) Jason Martinez of mlbtraderumors had this to say: "Zamboni 5:44 Flaherty and Sierra get it done for the Cards for Abreu Jason Martinez 5:45 I'd say one of their top pitching prospects, one of their best OF prospects and maybe one low-level guy with high upside. So Flaherty/Sierra could be in the vicinity of what it would take." Yeah Magneuris Sierra is a leadoff profile with elite level defense in CF. Flaherty and Sierra would probably be a nice deal for Sox.

I've wrestled with this decision on Abreu for some time now. I've always been of the mindset that you maximize value on all of your assets but I understand the opposite thought process on Jose Abreu. He is a mentor to some of the young guys and fellow countrymen but how seriously does that need to be considered? I know that Rick Hahn and the organization values Abreu very highly but his job is to put together a baseball team that will sustain success with winning a world series as the goal. I don't see them dumping Abreu to save $$ for a minimal return or something like that but his current contract matters a great deal. He's going to get about $17 million in arbitration this year and probably another $20 million next year. I've said that with two years of control, they need to either extend him or trade him. His value will never be higher than it is right now. On the other hand, I'm not interested in the White Sox paying retail for Jose Abreu. If he wants to be a White Sox lifer, and take a pretty big discount to stay then I'd be all for him sticking around for awhile. If he wants to max out his income though or even make what's probably fair, I honestly think they'll deal him. He's going to be a 33 year old DH by the time they even consider seriously winning something. He's important for the clubhouse but if Luis Robert and Yoan Moncada aren't going to be as good because the Sox traded him, then they probably aren't the right guys anyway.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 10:53 AM) I'm obviously pro-rebuild and also believe that the Sox still need more talent in the system to really do this right, but I don't like this fit. Obviously there's a price for any player, but I don't see anything left in the Red Sox system that would make sense. I've said it before, but I think Abreu is worth more to the White Sox than he is on the open market. I agree with this but now is the time to move if they are truly going to move him. I read this one of two ways: Sox leaked Red Sox to the media in order to press some other suitors into action on Abreu in talks. Also possible, Dombrowski floated the possibility of trading for Abreu because they are in the Hosmer/Martinez market and Boras hasn't even started moving.

QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 28, 2017 -> 12:47 PM) Ban her. It's not even a crash I want to watch every year anymore. It was cringeworthy.

Anyone watch the Champs vs Pros? Good god Camila

White Sox have to tender contracts to or non-tender the following players: Jose Abreu Leury Garcia Avisail Garcia Al Albuquerque Danny Farquhar Jake Petricka Zach Putnam Carlos Rodon Yolmer Sanchez What do you guys think?

So I didn't really do any additional research but here goes: 1. Eloy Jimenez OF 2. Michael Kopech RHP 3. Luis Robert OF 4. Alec Hansen RHP 5. Zack Collins C 6. Dylan Cease RHP 7. Jake Burger 3B 8. Blake Rutherford OF 9. Dane Dunning RHP 10. Carson Fulmer RHP 11. Spencer Adams RHP 12. Casey Gillaspie 1B 13. Micker Adolfo OF 14. Jordan Stephens RHP 15. Gavin Sheets 1B 16. Zack Burdi RHP 17. Ryan Cordell OF 18. Jordan Guerrero LHP 19. Luis Gonzalez OF 20. Ian Clarkin LHP 21. Luis Alexander Basabe 22. Seby Zavala C 23. Alex Call OF 24. Thyago Vieira RHP 25. Daniel Palka 1B/OF 26. Luis Curbelo SS 27. Aaron Bummer LHP 28. AJ Puckett RHP 29. Jake Peter INF 30. Bernardo Flores LHP

These players get to keep their bonuses. They are restricted to international rules like everyone has said though. The White Sox can't sign anyone for more than $300K. There really aren't a ton of teams with a bunch of money to throw around and teams already have money committed during the 2018/2019 period. Some of these prospects like Almonte (catcher) were never $3 million + prospects anymore. They were bundled to save on other guys. Sox may have a shot at a few guys for $300K but I don't expect them to be too active. It's just the way it is once they decided to go all out for Luis Robert.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) Isn't the waiver order just the draft order in the off-season? I'm not sure it goes by league. Yes it is: https://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3525 So basically, only the Tigers and Giants have priority over the White Sox if they want Mark Appel.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 08:32 AM) I'm not sure Appel is going to make it out of the NL. Plenty or rebuilding teams that could claim him. Isn't the waiver order just the draft order in the off-season? I'm not sure it goes by league.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) Doesn't Polo get 1 more year since he was signed at/before age 18? What year was he signed?

White Sox chose not to protect: UTIL Jake Peter, LHP Jordan Guerrero, and OF Tito Polo. Any of them could potentially get taken. I think they could add more guys after the non-tender deadline too though.

QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 12:02 AM) This is from mlbtraderumors: Hard to argue with this. Edit: I screwed up the quote function. Efraín Zavarce‏ @EfrainZavarce Follow Follow @EfrainZavarce More Omar Vizquel será en 2018 el manager de @WSDashBaseball, la sucursal de @whitesox en la Liga de Carolina, un circuito clase A avanzada. Es la primera vez que una organización de @MLB lo contrata para dirigir. #MiLB Omar Vizquel will be in 2018, the manager of @WSDashBaseball, the @whitesox branch in the Carolina League, a circuit class to advanced. It is the first time that an organization of @MLB hired him to direct. #MiLB

White Sox have a ton of roster moves to make in the next 24 hours. Scott Merkin suggested that the club could add as many as 6 guys to the 40 man roster. In order to do so and leave a spot available for the Rule 5, they would need to remove 3 players from the 40-man.

Great trade. These are the types of moves that they need to be making. They've traded international pool money for SS Yeyson Yrizarri, RHP Ryan Burr, and now Thyago Vieria. Not a bad haul for $$ that you basically couldn't spend anyway.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 08:42 PM) I'm so sick of hearing stories about Mirotic and Portis. They run their team worse than a kindergarten. I'm not really sure what they're supposed to do here. Mirotic and Portis need to sit and hash it out or Mirotic probably shouldn't be at the facility. They aren't trading Portis and can't trade Mirotic until January 15th.

Bruce Levine‏ @MLBBruceLevine Following Following @MLBBruceLevine More The White Sox are in the catching market for their up and coming pitching staff. Does Jonathan Lucroy make sense here?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) Luzardo, Murphy, and Jefferies? If you could get Jesus Luzardo and and Lazaro Armenteros I would do it in a heartbeat. Not sure Oakland would offer that though. Catcher Sean Murphy is a potential guy to keep in mind. The White Sox love AFL players. THey were also interested in Luzardo for DRob during the Nats talks.

http://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/A-...-s-12357838.php The A’s have most of their lineup set but want to add a right-handed-hitting outfielder, and it was learned they have interest in Avisail Garcia of the White Sox, or at least that type of player. Garcia, 26, is coming off a breakout season and was a first-time All-Star, hitting .330 with 18 homers and 80 RBIs in 136 games. Chicago GM Rick Hahn said he’s open to trading Garcia and first baseman Jose Abreu, both of whom are under club control through 2019.

In reference to Southsider and Dick Allen, you're both kind of correct. I've seen those numbers stated as fact and it doesn't really make sense. There are teams with $$ available that can still be traded all the way up to June 15th. For example, the White Sox have a budget of $4.25 million. They spent 600K that is accounted for on 2 players. They traded an undisclosed amount to Arizona and Texas. They could still have $2 million left for all we know. They could theoretically trade that money to a team that has $3 million left and that team would then have $5 million to offer Otani. This is almost impossible to predict until BA releases their International Signing Reviews for every team.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 4, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/late...lo-stanton.html Interesting read but Gammons article is a bit contradictory. Starting to doubt the Cards could really land Stanton since it would take so many things to line up. Would be easier for a team like Boston or even the Yanks to step in and make an offer without asking for much money, if any, in return. Yanks, Boston and Dodgers have very serious luxury tax concerns. It's not just $$. If you are over the tax you lose international money and you have to give up a 2nd an 5th rounder to sign any free agent given a QO. I think teams like the Cardinals and Phillies are most likely.