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QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 29, 2018 -> 01:09 PM) I learned that you can't lose competitive balance picks for qualified FAs (cardinals with Holland woulld have a comp pick be their pick normally they give up) and it made me hate comp balance picks even more. I actually learned this too while the site was down. It's pretty irritating. The Twins still have 3 selections before the one they forfeited to sign Lance Lynn. Teams like Sox and Phillies are really at a disadvantage. Philly had to forfeit the 3rd selection in the 2nd round to sign Santana and the 3rd selection in the 3rd round to sign Arrieta. The Twins and Brewers gave up their 3rd rounders for Lynn and Cain but still have their 1st, 2nd, and a competitive balance selection. It's insane

Okay so the draft order is completely updated and ready at this point. It can be found here:https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/royals-tigers-have-largest-bonus-draft-allotments/. I will post the list up until White Sox 2nd pick. Cubs, Cubs, Cardinals, Rockies all get picks after round 2 for Arrieta, Davis, Lynn and Holland. They don't affect the White Sox 1st or 2nd pick. 1. Tigers 2. Giants 3. Phillies 4. White Sox 5. Reds 6. Mets 7. Padres 8. Braves 9. Athletics 10. Pirates 11. Orioles 12. Jays 13. Marlins 14. Mariners 15. Rangers 16. Rays 17. Angels 18. Royals 19. Twins 20. Twins 21. Brewers 22. Rockies 23. Yankees 24. Cubs 25. Diamondbacks 26. Red Sox 27. Nationals 28. Astros 29. Indians 30. Dodgers 31. Rays (Alex Cobb Comp) 32. Rays (Drew Rasmussen comp) 33. Royals (Lorenzo Cain) 34. Royals (Eric Hosmer Comp) 35. Indians (Carlos Santana Comp) 36. Pirates 37. Orioles 38. Padres 39. Diamondbacks 40. Royals 41. Indians 42. Rockies 43. Cardinals 2nd round 44. Tigers 45. Giants 46. White Sox

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 1, 2018 -> 10:15 AM) Would you take all those guys over Gorman? Not necessarily. It's so early.

I feel very comfortable with the pitching at the top. The Sox are guaranteed one of Hankins/Liberatore/McClanaan/Rolison at this point

QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 28, 2018 -> 05:05 PM) I don't listen too sports radio (except for MLB radio) much anymore but turn it on on my way to see what the topics are. Someone asked a question to a Cubs front office person, I think Epstein about why baseball doesn't have someone like Steve Kerr in basketball speaking out against gun violence. Does the radio person not know about Steve Kerr's father? How many other people in sports have their father assassinated? How uninformed some of these "hosts" are has no end. I didn't listen to the whole thing so maybe they got more into it but comparing anyone else to Steve Kerr's situation is strange. Wasn't just Kerr. I listened to the segment and Parkins was right on. Popovich, SVG, Kerr, multiple NBA players have been openly discussing many of the issues in society. It's hasn't really been a thing in baseball. That's why they were asking. Parkins and Spiegel have spoken about Kerr's history in the past.

I think they should let the team with the worst record have the #1 pick but 14th worst should pick 2nd, 2nd worst should pick 3rd, 13th worst should pick 4th etc. This would stop some of it IMO.

QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 28, 2018 -> 09:17 AM) That stupid 7 game win streak earlier in the season pisses me off even more now. It should. If they went even 4-3 in those games they'd have 17 wins right now and the #1 pick in the draft

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Feb 28, 2018 -> 07:54 AM) So you're telling me the team has to be this bad for attendance to drop? Wow. They could be an 8-10 seed in the east and shoot back up in attendance again. Good choice by the FO to rebuild. Bulls are currently leading the league in attendance again

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 28, 2018 -> 07:03 AM) Isn't A. Thomas a huge favorite as the 2nd round pick? I hope so. I'm not sure they can push him there though.

QUOTE (zisk @ Feb 27, 2018 -> 01:09 PM) 3 #1 picks in 2 years. 2 season ending injuries and a complete bust of a catcher. what a rebuild. It had to be said. Can you explain to me how the catcher is a complete bust?

Holy s*** what happened in this thread?

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 21, 2018 -> 12:58 PM) I don't know what to make of VZ. Yes, rumors are scouts aren't keen on going (light way of putting they are worried about their lives), but when I looked at the signings last year, there were tons of VZ signings. You wouldn't be able to pick it out as different than any other country. I'm wondering if maybe what's happening is the VZ talent is so willing to leave they are coming cheap teams are taking more flyers from VZ with less scouting. For instance, Anthony Coronado from the white sox last year. He signed for 100k and was the only guy moved from DSL to AZL in season. SS Lenyn Sosa was signed for $350K out of Venezuela as well and went right to the AZL last year.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 09:57 PM) I bought mlb.com so we better go .500. I like the projection in this thread. FYI: My radio listening tonight was JT The Brick. Oddly I gladly heard somebody supporting my controversial position AGAINST tanking. He was furious and said pretty much what gets me in trouble on here. He said owners like Cuban should give money back to the fans if they admit tanking or it is obvious. He said sports are in great danger if teams disrespect the sport by tanking. He ripped the Sixers and he ripped the Astros saying their organization should not deserve credit for building a winner. He said they built a winner by tanking and getting tons of draft picks. Finally he said he realized fans embraced tanking and it is very dangerous to the integrity of sports to build teams that way. He said as a kid if the Yankees stunk they stunk. They didn't tank. He's a Yankee fan. Not sure who he is but he sounds like an idiot

I'm pretty confident in saying that the White Sox won't be forfeiting the 45th pick and $2 million in draft capital to sign Mike Moustakas.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 08:34 AM) They’ll need the pen even more with Kopech and Hansen...to protect them as much as possible. I don't think we see Hansen this year and most of the bullpen will be traded by the time Kopech is in Chicago

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 11:32 PM) If anyone was wondering what we did with our remaining international money, we have signed 5 guys since the beginning of February that I think are all international amateurs. Jose Rodriguez SS 16 years old Johnabiell Laureano CF 17 years old Francisco Benitez RHP 17 years old Luis Rodriguez RHP 17 years old Jesus Rondon RHP 18 years old Interesting. White Sox only had $500K remaining.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 17, 2018 -> 11:14 PM) https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-padres-sig...-045527963.html $144 million...first $100+ mill deal in franchise history. $18 million aav, less than Carlos Santana at $20 million. Wil Myers at $83 million was record holder until Saturday. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports...0216-story.html He's actually getting a 5 years $105 million deal and then 3 player options totaling $39.

Eric Hosmer signed an 8 year deal with the San Diego Padres. The Padres will forfeit their 3rd selection (2nd round) and the Royals get a comp pick after 1st round for losing Hosmer. Nothing below changes for White Sox. Moustakas, Holland, Arrieta, Cobb and Lynn are the remaining free agents with compensation attached 1. Tigers 2. Giants 3. Phillies 4. White Sox 5. Reds 6. Mets 7. Padres 8. Braves 9. Athletics 10. Pirates 11. Orioles 12. Jays 13. Marlins 14. Mariners 15. Rangers 16. Rays 17. Angels 18. Royals 19. Twins 20. Twins 21. Brewers 22. Rockies 23. Yankees 24. Cubs 25. Diamondbacks 26. Red Sox 27. Nationals 28. Astros 29. Indians 30. Dodgers 31. Rays (Alex Cobb) 32. Royals (Eric Hosmer) 33. Royals (Lorenzo Cain) 34. Royals (Mike Moustakas) 35. Rockies (Greg Holland) 36. Indians (Carlos Santana) Competitive Balance Round A 37. Pirates 38. Rays (Comp, failure to sign Rasmusses) 39. Orioles 40. Padres 41. Diamondbacks 42. Royals 43. Indians 44. Rockies 45. Cardinals 2nd Round 46. Tigers 47. Giants 48. White Sox

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 09:07 AM) Law's top 30 draft prospects up. Insider only. http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/post/_/...draft-prospects Keith Law top 30 usually looks very different than other publications and it's no different this time: 1. Ethan Hankins RHP HS GA 2. Casey Mize RHP Auburn 3. Travis Swaggerty OF South Florida 4. Nolan Gorman 3B HS AZ 5. Matthew Liberatore LHP HS AZ 6. Griffin Conine OF Duke 7. Logan Gilbert RHP Stetson 8. Kumar Rocker RHP GA 9. Jake McCarthy OF Virginia 10. Ryan Rolison LHP Ole Miss 11. Jackson Kowar RHP Florida 12. Carter Stewart RHP HS FL 13. Shane McClanahan LHP South Florida 14. Nander de Sedas SS HS FL 15. Jarred Kelenic OF HS WI 16. Steele Walker OF Oklahoma 17. Seth Beer OF Clemson 18. Nick Madrigal 2B Oregon State 19. Will Banfield C HS GA 20. Brice Turang SS HS CA 21. Cole Wilcox RHP HS GA 22. Brady Singer RHP Florida 23. Tristan Pompey OF Kentucky 24. Tim Cate LHP UConn 25. Jeremy Eierman SS Missouri State 26. Mason Denaburg RHP HS FL 27. Tristan Casas 1B HS FL 28. Cole Winn RHP HS CA 29. Konnor Pilkington LHP Mississippi State 30. Joey Bart C Georgia Tech

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 08:54 AM) I hope so. Seems like this has been a bad decade for #1 overall picks, hasn't it? Kind of. It seems like many of the rebuilding clubs that have picked #1 also have a comp pick and a high 2nd rounder. These teams have been saving $$ with the 1st overall pick in order to allocate funds throughout. It could have something to do with it.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 06:39 PM) Adolfo coming in at #17 is pretty ridiculous IMO. Check out his power & walk numbers over the last three months of the season, the kid was making some serious progress. Obviously he has work to do on the strikeouts, but there is so much upside here I feel like he should be in the top 12 without question. I agree but he's still pretty far from the majors, has injury concerns, and plate discipline issues in the manner of deciding which pitches to drive and which pitches he should lay off of due to making soft contact. That last part was in the handbook.

As far as Zavala goes: they mention that Sox have him on a program to add strength and weight because he loses a ton of weight in season. He also altered swing path to get ahigher launch angle. They note that he has power and an all fields approach, fringy but playable defense, fringe average arm. They say his ceiling is offensive minded backup catcher. Call: probably ends up in left but profiles as an extra OF with the chance for me if he hits like he always has They seem to think Cease is most likely a reliever. FWIW, Josh Norris did the list and he saw Sheets a ton at Wake Forest. Could have something to do with the ranking. They gave Sheets a Lucas Duda comp.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 12:41 PM) Some interesting stuff in there. First would be Puckett, I don't anyone else is even close to that high on him. They said "probably a back end starter" but he has a plus changeup and some scouts think he can add more velocity.

My BA handbook came in the mail last night. The White Sox top 30 is interesting. There are a bunch of relievers and they apparently love the 2017 draft. Sox are ranked as the #4 system in baseball. 1. Eloy Jimenez OF 2. Michael Kopech RHP 3. Alec Hansen RHP 4. Luis Robert OF 5. Dane Dunning RHP 6. Zack Collins C 7. Jake Burger 3B 8. Blake Rutherford OF 9. Gavin Sheets 1B 10. Dylan Cease RHP 11. Zack Burdi RHP 12. Spencer Adams RHP 13. Carson Fulmer RHP 14. Luis Gonzalez OF 15. AJ Puckett RHP 16. Jordan Stephens RHP 17. Micker Adolfo OF 18. Luis Alexander Basabe OF 19. Lincoln Henzman RHP 20. Thyago Vieira RHP 21. Alex Call OF 22. Ian Clarkin LHP 23. Ian Hamilton RHP 24. Tyler Johnson RHP 25. Jordan Guerrero LHP 26. Bernardo Flores LHP 27. Tito Polo OF 28. Lenyn Sosa SS 29. Seby Zavala C 30. Connor Walsh RHP 31. Yeyson Yrizarri SS

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 11:59 AM) There's Mike Moustakas. He hit 38 bombs last year but his OBP and only average defense drag down his WAR.I anticipate a huge hole needing to be filled when the Sox can't outbid everyone of Machado, Donaldson or Arenado and I'm not sure Donaldson would be a good idea at his age or if Machado will decide not to be a SS. Moustakas would fill that LH power void and fill that huge hole at 3rd base. Many here don't like him since we are still supposedly 2 years away from 2020 but even then he will be 31 , Donaldson 34. I have seen people saying Donaldson will age well while but I don't see how anyone can derive that while at the same time dismissing Moustakas. Miore than likely the Sox won't sign Moose and probably take their chances on Yolmer, Davidson, Burger or Machado and Arenado but those options seem far fetched in my mind . I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell the Sox outbid everyone for the huge names out there and unless Davidson can show us way more than he has so far or Yolmer can hit 25 bombs a year 3rd base will be a glaring hole. Mike Moustakas isn't very good and the Sox won't be interested in forfeiting a top 45 draft pick and $2 million in draft bonus pool space to sign him to play for a non-contender. It just doesn't make any sense at this point.