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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 08:33 AM) These rival evaluators said the same thing in 2010, and passed on drafting him. People thought he was unsignable and some thought he was a reliever.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 4, 2016 -> 04:22 PM) I might be a big ten Homer but I think peppers would be a great pick for the bears. Give them the play maker on defense that has been missing. I'd rather take good players over a QB that isn't worth a top pick. Peppers isn't a top 5 player though. I don't know what he does for you. He has 1 interception in college. He has 3 TD's so people think he's awesome. He's good. You have to be Sean Taylor for me to take a S that high though and I think Jamal Adams from LSU is better.

I'm actually coming around to a pitching based package from Washington. They can always trade the pitching later. According to mlb.com Giolito is the #3 prospect in baseball and Robles is #10. Reynaldo Lopez is #37 and Eric Fedde is #75. Give me all of them at 3B Carter Kieboom and I probably do it. I'm still high on Giolito though. He's the best pitching project in baseball. Legit 80 fastball and 70 Curveball with 55 command. He's an ace. Also have CF Andrew Stevenson and RHP Joe Ross. They can get it done.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 3, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) Sources: Melancon has multiple 4-yr, $60M+ offers: #SFGiants, #Nationals, perhaps one other. SF thought to be strongest, as @jcrasnick said. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/805256686994853888 And David Robertson just became a bargain again.

Brohm would actually be a very good hire for Purdue. Develops QB's and scores points.

Really good info about the new CBA from Jeff Passan: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-inside-de...-082559072.html International $$ can be traded. Teams like the Padres get no amnesty and still can't spend more than $300,000 on a player for next 2 years. They do however, still get a pool amount of $5.75 million and they can trade it.

I will say that the Sox settle on one monster headliner and upside for Sale and do this: Astros Receive: LHP Chris Sale White Sox Receive: INF Alex Bregman 1B/DH AJ Reed RHP David Paulino OF Preston Tucker OF Jason Martin Here are a few more: St. Louis Receives: Adam Eaton and Dan Jennings White Sox Receive: OF Harrison Bader 3B Paul DeJong RHP Jack Flaherty RHP Sandy Alcantara RHP Dakota Hudson Los Angeles Dodgers Receive: Todd Frazier and Zach Putnam White Sox Receive: 2B/DH Willie Calhoun RHP Jordan Sheffield Boston Red Sox Receive: RHP David Robertson White Sox Receive: C Blake Swihart Texas Rangers Receive: OF Melky Cabrera White Sox Receive: LHP Cole Ragans Keep Abreu, Nate Jones, Quintana, Gonzalez for now.

Lets say Dexter Fowler signs in Toronto. St. Louis was said to have some interest in that type of player. How many of the following guys would you need from St. Louis to trade Adam Eaton: RHP Luke Weaver, RHP Jack Flaherty, RHP Sandy Alcantara, OF Harrison Bader, C Carson Kelly, SS Delvin Perez. I think STL can acquire Adam Eaton if they ponied up honestly.

I coach HS football and don't have a ton of contacts but I heard this yesterday from some guys: Les Miles made a bunch of demands at Purdue that they weren't willing or able to do and their focus has shifted to PJ Fleck. Fleck is interested in the Purdue job but is holding out for a better offer.

Adam Eaton is my favorite player on the team. With that being said, he's a speed player and much of his value comes from his throwing arm and he's 28 years old. I think they will only trade him if they received an absolute haul in return but if that's the case I'd be fine with doing it. I'm not sure that Adam Eaton is going to be a 5-6 WAR player over the next few seasons. Even if he's a 3-4 WAR player though he's an incredible value. If he gets moved, I think we'll be pleased with the return because I can't see him moving otherwise.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) If the Pirates are looking to use Meadows in their OF, that seriously dents the package they could be able to offer for Sale. They aren't going to be able to give up both frontline starter candidates for Sale and still fill out their rotation. Meadows is a great Sale deal headliner because he's currently blocked. You can make something work with Meadows and one of those 2 starters as a headliner, you have an average at best deal for Sale if they say you get 1 of their 2 starters along with basically everything else they can offer. The Pirates aren't trading for Chris Sale.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 11:27 AM) Pretty stupid. Not as stupid as it was before. All Star Game winner hosting was dumbest thing in sports.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 11:10 AM) The qualifying pick doesn't really help the Sox because we aren't a team that will largely play in the big free agent market, so it helps the bigger spenders more then the lower spenders. Further, the fact that the compensation is paid based upon market size also hurts the Sox when you look at it from that perspective, because what we will give up vs. a team like the Royals/Indians will be more and akin to what the Dodgers / Yankees / Cubs would give up (again, not exactly fair given our revenue's, which are much more middle-market in size). I do agree that the international cap is a move that is beneficial for the Sox. Now they have incentive to do so though. If Fowler were on the FA market last season and all they had to give up was their 3rd rounder, they would have ponied up and paid it. In the future, I think they are much more likely to pay for free agents with a QO by losing a 3rd round pick rather than a 1st rounder. There won't be that many players receiving the QO though because teams are most likely going to trade their impending FA's.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 11:13 AM) I'm pretty sure Adam Dunn is the only player the White Sox have ever signed that would cost the Sox a draft pick with the new rules, assuming he would have been given a QO. That's not true. If you sign a player with a QO offer attached, you are still giving up the 3rd round pick regardless of the contract that you sign them for. The only thing that changes is the compensation that the other team receives in return.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 10:22 AM) We will likely be lumped into the large market players and thus, if it is based on market size, will get treated like the bigger spending clubs vs. the clubs we more or less fit in with from a revenue perspective. IT helps the Sox actually. They can sign free agents now and only lose a 3rd round pick for doing so in future years. They also have a $5 million cap on international spending. The Sox have been spending their entire bonus pools but they are often in the $3 million range. They never go over though. Now that nobody is allowed to go over, I would expect the White Sox to spend the entire $5 million annually on international amateurs.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 09:31 AM) Best write-up I've seen on Player Compensation: Teams that lose a free agent who rejects a qualifying offer will still get a draft pick. The details: For most teams, that pick would be a sandwich pick immediately following the competitive-balance picks that are awarded after the second round. However, if that team comes from the 15 smallest markets and is receiving revenue-sharing money, and it loses a free agent who signs a contract worth at least $50 million, that pick would follow the first round. And if the team losing that player is over the luxury-tax threshold, the pick would follow the fourth round. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0595981839814890747-4 h/t sss larry for finding Some were speculating that teams would try to do 2 years deals for under $50 million but my interpretation of the rule is that if you sign a player with a QO, you are losing your 3rd round pick unless you are a tax team, then you lose your 2nd and 5th rounders. I think this happens regardless of the contract that the player signs.

QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 08:54 AM) give me Schwarber, Contreras and Gleyber Torres for Sale and we can start talking with the Cubs. Gleyber Torres is on the Yankees. Do you mean Eloy Jimenez?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 08:01 AM) I just wonder how they determine contract size over $50 million if there are incentives and things that trigger contracts becoming guaranteed. If you sign a guy to a contract that guarantees $49 million for 3 years, but he gets another 3 years and $60 million guaranteed after his first plate appearance, is there draft pick forfeiture? You would think if you are giving someone $50 million plus, a second round pick shouldn't me so much to you, but it might make the guys right on the $50 million worth line have to accept shorter term contracts. Mike Ferrin just tweeted it and I can't use twitter at work. It would be helpful in here. Here's what he's saying: Players turn down the QO, if a tax teams signs them then they forfeit their 2nd and 5th rounder. If a non tax team signs them they forfeit their 3rd rounder. This is where I've seen both but Ferrin says team losing the QO FA would receive a pick in between round 1-2 if the players gets a contract more than $50 million and would receive a pick after Competitive Balance Round B if players signs for less than $50 million. If a luxury tax team loses a QO free agent, they get a pick after 4th round.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 07:44 AM) Players didn't try hard solely because of home-field advantage. They tried hard way before that rule was implemented and they will keep trying as hard in the future. The nature of the sport is why the MLB game is the most popular and players try harder. Mike Trout going 100% for 3 at-bats and a few fly balls is a a lot different than LeBron giving full effort on offense and defense for 20+ minutes or Von Miller trying to run through a left tackle to destroy a QB or running back 15-20 times. Nothing will change as far as your All-Star viewing experience goes. Sorry but a HR in the 9th inning by a Tampa Bay Rays player shouldn't give the AL home-field in the World Series over an NL with a better record. Dumbest rule in sports is finally fixed.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 07:33 AM) Perhaps I'm misinterpreting the rule. But being designated a major market team here doesn't affect our pick or what pick we give up either. Far as I can tell it's not a trading of picks. And if one of our players signs with the Yankees, I don't see why we wouldn't still get the top available pick. I guess maybe it's a very very slight disadvantage in the oft chance we sign guys over 50 million and the other team gets a better pick than deserved because of it There are no 1st round picks given up for signing QO Free Agents anymore. For example, if Dodgers signed Frazier to a 4/70 deal next year, they'd forfeit their 2nd and 5th round pick to do so. It's not clear which pick the White Sox would receive in return but it sounds like a 2nd for tax teams and 3rd for non-tax teams. This will spur trading because most teams would rather have the prospects than the 3rd round draft pick.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 10:55 PM) This won't change much for the Sox. Nothing in it should instigate the Sox to give any more than their usual half-hearted effort on the international front; the forward-thinkers are now limited, so the Sox won't be hurt as badly by their international lethargy. It will change a little bit. If the White Sox bonus pool was say $3.4 million before, they'd spend the $3.4 million. These caps are stupid and hurt the kids that are trying to make fair market value but it helps the Sox a lot. With a $5 million cap on spending, I have no reason to believe that the White Sox won't spend the full $5 million every year. This helps them but I hate it.

I'm reading the draft rules as no more 1st round pick in compensation. Rosenthal saying it'll be a 2nd or 3rd rounder in return. If that's the case, then the Royals got f***ed. They have decisions to make. Cain, Escobar, Hosmer, Moustakas, Duffy, and Davis are all free agents. I thought they'd just QO most of them and get 4-5 1st rounders. Not the case anymore. They probably need to sign who they can and trade the rest. Yikes.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 10:25 PM) So, leaves open the definition of amateur/professional in foreign leagues. Yeah. There's no way that guys like Otani and older Cubans will be subject to this. I wonder what the cutoff age is.

User Actions Following Jayson StarkVerified account ‏@jaysonst Sources say every team will have a total bonus pool of about $5 million to sign foreign-born amateur players. And they can't exceed that cap This will help the White Sox but kind of sucks in general.