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QUOTE (greg775 @ May 26, 2015 -> 03:04 PM) Good post. Trade Shark and Robertson NOW and get a huge ass haul in return. Can we please stop talking about trading Robertson? It is just not going to happen. I can't keep looking at this. You cried for a year and a half about the Sox trading Addison Reed and now you want to trade Robertson?

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 26, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) And then he just doesn't sign. Based on what transpired last season, I don't see him taking a discount to go anywhere. He could go to UCLA next year, sit out the season rehabbing, and then enter the draft the following season after building his value back up. Jeff Hoffman had a lot less leverage last year and still signed for slot. Doesn't he have to go to UCLA for 3 years then? He'll take the money now. There is no reason to go back to school, pitch for free and risk injuring yourself again. Playing sports for free is dumb.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 26, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) Not just hindsight, everyone thought it was a mistake when it was announced. (Even you do if you scroll back a few pages ) It's not gonna ruin his legacy, but there's definitely gonna be a "what if" feeling if they don't win the next two. It's not his only mistake though. Multiple players have been shipped out of here that could have helped for reasons unknown to anyone but Quenneville . I also hate that he only goes to Kane/Toews together in desperation mode. Do it more often. He also has a fondness for bad players occasionally. I don't want him fired or anything but Wednesday definitely wasn't the only head scratching move he's made.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 26, 2015 -> 09:08 AM) Some of you just THRIVE on negativity. What the f*** does Buddy Bell have to do with Melky Cabrera's 54 wRC+ or John Danks' 5.11 ERA? This team has played like s*** this year and they deserve to lose, but giving up your fandom over a s***ty season is just so dramatic. Fine, blame the manager if you want to pretend you have any idea why they're hitting so badly, but the bottom line is they're losing because they're playing like s***. The players have not performed anywhere close to the level they could have been expected to perform. It happens to 10+ teams every year. I don't know why it's so satisfying to find a political reason to hate your team. This post is awesome. How do you stop being a fan of a team? Doesn't make sense to me.

QUOTE (glangon @ May 26, 2015 -> 08:58 AM) I'd like us to try and break out of this by using our utility guys and try and manufacture runs and use the speed that we have. (not drugs) With Avi looking as if he might hit the DL and everyone else struggling, I'd go for a new approach and look for the Could Go Sox 2015. Line Up Eaton L - CF Sanchez S - SS Abreu R - 1B Gillaspie L - DH Cabrera S LF Soto R - C Shuck L - RF Bonafacio S - 2B Beckham R - 3B Bench T-Flo - R La Roche - L Alexei - R You have some speed and the ability to to eek out bunts and infield hits for Eatonb and Sanchez. Sanchez's defence at SS can't be any worse than Lexi's has. You have Abreu, Gillaspie and Cabrera, whose job is to simply get on base and move the runners over. You have Shuck whose job is not to strike out and then you would have Shuck, Boney and Beckham who could all use their speed and ability to get base hits whilst sitting the three coldest bats in baseball. You could bring on La Roche as a Pinch Hitter or Lexi as a pinch runner. Its not ideal but without calling anyone up, it can't be any worse than the rot we're watching just now. The problem is that they have too many terrible players. If Beckham, Bonifacio, Sanchez, and Soto/Flowers are in the same lineup, I just don't really expect any success. Then add JB Shuck to it and it's even worse. I just vomited.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 25, 2015 -> 09:48 PM) I'm kind of excited about prospects of a midseason "do-over." I remember one year the Sox acquired Bobby Bonds, not Barry but Bobby. He was so bad they recognized the problem and dumped him. I believe they did the same with Dan Pasqua. They also knew they erred in acquiring Swisher and also that lousy leadoff hitter Erstad. Dumped all of 'em before the fans picketed. If Hahn does this right, he can get so many good prospects for Shark, Lexi, LaRoche, Melky, Robertson, Duke it'll make our heads spin. Please Mr. Hahn, start planning some amazing trades. I still say we might be able to steal a few KC prospects for Shark. They are talking daily here about Cueto. Why not Shark? Robertson will be a huge chip for a contender! Don't mistakenly keep these guys we acquired last offseason in hopes they turn it around next year. When a guy is a bust, he's a bust (can u say Adam Dunn?) Surely some of you agree with me?! If they fall way out of it, Shark and Ramirez could go. Melly, LaRoche, and Robertson aren't going anywhere though. The whole point of trying to win this year was to not waste the prime's of Sale and Abreu. They aren't just going to give up on next year as well.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ May 26, 2015 -> 07:33 AM) This team has very little discipline. That won't change until there is a new manager at the helm. Also, the offense is pathetic! Looks like we will be sellers once again. They don't have much to sell though. Samardzija and Ramirez is about it.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 24, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) Damn, u just can't win baseball games with bad leftfielder, bad rightfielder, lousy armed centerfielder, lousy armed catcher, horrific defender at third and first. Just can't do it. I'd say two games over .500 is this team's high water mark, 25 below .500 is the low water mark. Will prolly finish about 12 below .500. Melky isn't a bad LF and Eaton has a strong arm. Actually, all 3 OF arms are strong. I agree that the team is bad defensively at 3B, 1B, RF, and C though overall. I'd play LaRoche at 1B as much as possible with Beckham at 3B until they can possibly upgrade.

The White Sox have obviously been a disappointment and their offense has been terrible. They are lucky to be 19-22 in all honesty. I expect their starting pitching to be better and I also expect Eaton, Cabrera, Abreu, and LaRoche to be better. The White Sox as currently constructed can be anywhere between 5 under and 5 over .500 at any given time. I really think that the Sox will be in position to add to the club come July. I've been looking over some names. The most ideal spots to add would be at C and 3B but those are hard to find. Ben Zobrist Oakland Aramis Ramirez Brewers Martin Prado Marlins Brandon Phillips (2B) Reds Jonathan Lucroy Brewers Brayan Pena Reds Nick Hundley Rockies Willin Rosario Rockies I know that those names aren't terribly inspiring. Zobrist or Ramirez would be nice. I think Lucroy would be a huge addition but will ultimately cost too much. Does anyone have any other ideas? There is already a selling thread so yes I know if it spirals they could entertain dealing Ramirez or Shark.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 24, 2015 -> 08:26 PM) So are we saying LaRoche is a good hitter? Are we happy with what he's put up? Just wondering. Did anyone say that?

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 23, 2015 -> 11:44 PM) Would they take LaRoche off our hands? Get him back in the NL. Nah they'd have no interest. LaRoche isn't the reason why the White Sox offense is bad though. He hasn't been good by any means but most haven't been. Abreu needs to be better and hit for power. Eaton and Melky have been nowhere near good enough. There is a giant blackhole offensively at 2B, 3B, SS, and C. Just can't win consistently relying on guys like Gillaspie, Beckham, Flowers, and Soto.

QUOTE (Bruce_Blixton @ May 22, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) I can't recall a draft prospect rising faster than Jay has the past couple of weeks, he's gone from a late first round pick in most mock drafts to the #1 overall pick? I'm more than a little wary of that type of hype. I think the teams were always on him and the media is now catching up. The media types overlooked him because he's a closer but with many teams thinking he can start and liking the low innings totals, you have seen this sudden "rise".

Gary Parrish of CBSSports wrote an article on Thibodeau, Bulls, Hoiberg. Pretty good stuff in here: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball...ation-perfectly And this one just dropped from Friedell: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12890745...e-chicago-bulls

Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 14m14 minutes ago Ventura says Rodon will be skipped next time thru the rotation (not out permanently). Noesi to start Monday. Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 14m14 minutes ago This is one of the spots where #WhiteSox won't keep Carlos Rodon in line. Won't be long before next start but plan is extra rest.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 22, 2015 -> 08:07 AM) Why are people complaining about LaRoche vs. LH pitching when the 3 games in a row lost and lack of offense was against RH pitching? Because people need someone to blame. Haven't gotten the power that they need out opt Abreu and LaRoche. Melky and Eaton have been pretty bad and they have offensive black holes at 2B, SS, 3B, and C. This offense just isn't good enough currently. They are lucky to be 20-22.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 21, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) June 15. The reason I mention that is simply because the rumor was that he was going to sign next week. If he physically signs next week, that means he signed before that period and falls into this year. If he were to simply "agree to terms" but sign on July 2 or later, it pushes into the next year, and would still allow the team to bring in their kids from Latin America that they have deals with already. Hopefully, this is what they are thinking. If they land him as well as their other "agreed upon" deals with international guys, it'd be a great July 2 class. They'd most likely have to sit out next year but they may have a big amateur draft pool next year if Samardzija leaves. I've always thought that a gamble like this was worth taking but the Sox haven't typically done what I'm advocating.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 22, 2015 -> 07:45 AM) Yes Okay fair enough. I'd rather take the chance that LaRoche homers vs a LHP. You just aren't going to win consistently with Sanchez, Bonifacio, and Beckham starting vs LHP.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 22, 2015 -> 07:20 AM) Six games vs. LHP, 5 starts for LaRoche. That's just completely inexcusable, it's like we are back in the 1980s are something and the only statistics available are hits, HRs, and BA. That's not even sabermetrics, it's simple batting splits. Who are they going to play instead though? I mean honestly, it's easy to rail on this issue and I understand it but what's the point? Would you rather put Bonifacio or Sanchez in the lineup because those are the option? They aren't going to play Flowers/Soto at the same time (Thank Goodness) and Beckham will be at 3B vs most LHP. There is nobody else to play. Now, if the Sox acquire someone like Aramis Ramirez for cheap, they can then play Gordon at 3B (yuck) and DH Ramirez vs LHP. They just don't have enough good players yet.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 20, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) Thibs sucks. Sure he coached more than half the games without Rose, but his winning percentage is only like 5th or 6th best all time. Why any team would covet this guy is beyond me. I don't think Thibodeau is a fit with Phil Jackson and what they want to do. That was my point.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 20, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) Two teams ahead and in the mix for the WC They'd be buyers in that scenario.

QUOTE (almagest @ May 20, 2015 -> 01:45 PM) I thought it was only illegal to trade coaches for players, not coaches for picks, even if players are traded from our side. Why would the Knicks want Tom Thibodeau?

The way the roster is constructed, I'd take my chances with LaRoche against LHP. Beckahm will be playing 3rd. That leaves Flowers/Soto which they won't do, Shuck, and Bonifacio instead of LaRoche. I'd rather just take the chance that LaRoche hits a couple of fastballs. If they can get an Aramis Ramirez for cheap, then yes maybe sit LaRoche vs some LHP.

If the White Sox are in contention they are much more likely to add than subtract. They'll just play out the year and take the comp pick for Samardzija if they can't sign him.

QUOTE (Special K @ May 19, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) No it's Robin's fault for not taking him out and bunting to move the runners over to second and third with one out in an extra inning game. That's about as basic of a managerial decision as it can get. Leaving Lexi in obviously didn't work out too well, unless you thought the infield pop up was a good result. No it's not. Sacrifice bunting there is stupid and gives you less of a chance to win. I would have criticized Robin for bunting. I loved his answer in post game. He said they had 3 tries to get a single. I will never understand the infatuation with giving away outs.

Greg, are we still trading Robertson? Asking for a friend...