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Winston-Salem Dash ‏@WSDashBaseball 6m6 minutes ago Jace Fry has been strong yet again (6IP, 1R, 3H, career high-tying 6K), but he and the Dash trail Salem 1-0 through 6. Listen @600WSJS Sox system is loaded with pitching.

Should they bat Sanchez in the 2 hole and move Melky to 5/6?

QUOTE (LDF @ May 14, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) and that is great.... can you or anyone imagine what is open now. the window of opportunity it there. it is not totally closed. fixed the radio contract, a full blitz of commercials for the summer of fun with the sox baseball, promote the family nite with the continue cheap ticket prices. sing the praise of the stars on the team. make a couple of spanish commercials featuring the spanish players for spanish tv. have those nites of father and son overniting at the park, i don't know, wasn't it several yrs ago they did that?? for me, do a live telecast for a cost of $1. and a limited amount to watch it in one of the rooms at the park. i don't know what else. but go out and put a full court press to get those fans. help this team fan base. this is just me and my rant. I just don't think any of that matters. The team needs to win consistently and even then it may not matter. Honestly, I kind of like being able to drive up there on a Tuesday night knowing it won't be full. Your ideas are good ones, don't get me wrong, I think Brooks Boyer and their marketing dept are pretty good though anyway. They need to win baseball games.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 13, 2015 -> 06:26 PM) i was talking to my family and was mentioning that the sox, instead of raising the prices, they should have lowered it a little across the board, and fixed the bad PR they got with the ozzie and son thing. no matter what, part of the major problem is the money and the so called not having it..... the biggest problem i thought the sox had was / IS the mismanagement of the FO!!!!! they need someone like Beane, the pres of Balti, someone... even look into the success Atl has done. It's not about money. They have the cheapest tickets in the city. I saw Chris Sale vs Max Scherzer for $7 last season.

From the Keith Law chat today: Jack (Chicago) Tyler Jay the White Sox guy if he's still there when they pick? Does he have #1 type potential or more of a 2 or 3? Thanks Keith! Klaw (1:12 PM) I've heard he's on their short list, whatever that means. I think he could be a 2. Had he pitched in the Illini rotation all year, he might have gone in the top 5 for slot, which would be $1 million-plus over what he's going to get.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 13, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) i have been going and been a loyal sox fan. the problem is, the team, the sox, i do not know if it is by design or what, they are the most charismatic of the 2 teams. how and why, maybe someone who is smarter than I can answer that. but you can not deny they have charisma. second, when Writz died, the hawks went and hired the pr guy from the northside. i saw right there, this guy had his stuff together. then i looked on how the sox really failed in that dept i came to realize, the northsiders hired really top notch pros, not some 2 nd ranked person. i say this for the sox guy, b/c what has he done that was memorable?? so how to over come that..... put a winning product on the field. not a half hearted attempt. so they can sell tickets. the one caveat i read about this in about forbes article on valuation, in that another article, even they stated, they use what they can thru public listing of the money. they are not able to get to the really smart book keeping area that the owners use to hide money. i still say, they have money to invest in players. John McDonough is good at his job but being s***ty enough to draft Kane and Toews and then actually drafting them matters far more than anything McDonough has done.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 13, 2015 -> 01:36 PM) I go to 15-20 games a year, therefore, I am better than everyone except DA. You need to stop going this year though so that the team finally starts winning.......

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 13, 2015 -> 01:33 PM) So basically this ownership group needs to go into debt on the hope that they can maybe convince fans to show up after years of winning playoff series. Yeah, good luck with that. If you are waiting for a once in a franchise history kind of run to show up, you might as well find another team to complain about... err, root for. The Tigers have been brought up a bunch in this thread. Go back and look at their history. From 1988 to 2010, they made the playoffs exactly once in a 23 season period. In 2010, the Tigers drew just over 30k a night to Comerica. 2010 was the year before their 4 straight playoff appearances, to see a team that won 81 games. That allowed the Tigers to invest in the minor league system and their major league system in a way that the White Sox, couldn't. For comparisons sake the White Sox were coming off of 3 playoff appearances in 10 years, including the 2005 WS, and drew about 27k a night. Going back to the bottom of Tigers history in 2002 and 2003 when they lost a combined 225 games in two years, they still saw almost 24k a night show up to see a 72 win team in 2004, or about 4k a night more than we had last year. So yes, it is done in other places without winning multiple years in a row. It is another excuse. SS but you left out the other reasons: the ballpark sucks, the upper deck is too high, it's too expensive, the team isn't good, people don't want to drive in from the suburbs, the neighborhood is dangerous, there's no place to go after games, parking is expensive, beer is expensive, food is expensive, it's better on tv, it's not fun, the stadium is empty, the fireworks are too loud, the music isn't good. I've heard all of those and there are definitely more.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ May 13, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) I guess I don't see it this way. I don't think this about commitment. I think it's about the ownership having a product to sell, and if we, the fans, i.e., the consumers, aren't buying it, whose fault is it? And what we are not buying is a team that hardly ever wins anything. I don't have to commit to Jerry Reinsdorf that I'll go sit in his stadium X number of times of year in the hopes that he'll somehow figure out a way to put a consistent winner on the field - which I remind you, he has miserably failed to do for the last 35 years. No, the onus is on him and his management team to put together a product that is worthy of greater support than the mediocre one that has typically been put forward. I guess this is true. I'll probably go out 10 more times this season because I like what they did this offseason. I also like that I have an 80% chance of seeing Sale/Shark/Rodon/Q start the game that I attend. They also play well at home, I like the ballpark experience, and the stadium is easy to get to. With that being said, I am in the minority.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 13, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) Yup. I'm sure he'll be happy to coach LBJ next year in Cleveland. I can't see Lebron wanting Thibs in Cleveland. No way Lebron is going to work that hard and do the unnecessary stuff that Thibs does. Thibs will get an upstart like Orlando or New Orleans.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2015 -> 01:03 PM) And so we'll slog from one just-under .500 season into another, amazed at how attendance keeps going down from year to year. Yes. They don't have a choice. What are they supposed to do? They can't do what the Cubs did. This is in the other thread but "our" fan base wouldn't be on board with a rebuild. They aren't on board unless the team wins consistently. They have to ride it out. They have to hope that their offseason moves work out and supplement those moves with guys from the farm system and other deals. I don't see them dialing it back. They would have done that instead of what they did this offseason.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2015 -> 12:25 PM) That's a great comparison for what Timmy will probably be like if he's at SS in the big leagues in 2016. The difference? The A's sold off expensive pieces and clearly committed to a rebuilding season and are hoping that Semien can develop into a more solid defender at SS with time. Are you prepared to commit to 2016 as a rebuilding season? They aren't going to rebuild with Sale, Q, and Rodon at the front of the rotation, Duke and Robertson at back end of the bullpen, and Abreu in his prime. Not wasting Sale and Abreu's prime is one of a myriad of reasons why they spent heavily this offseason. I just think it's a nonissue. They aren't going to tear it down properly, they never have. I also think they'll be around .500 though and it'll be a moot point.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2015 -> 11:59 AM) Because if this team falls flat like it's in the process of doing and the tiny "they spent money on the team" attendance bump evaporates, the financials for next season look terrible without adding a single soul. If they're below .500 in June and especially July, with 2-3 teams ahead of them, I think it would be extremely surprising if they didn't try to move some of that salary they just took on. If they pick up Alexei's option and offer arbitration to most of the guys who are arb-eligible, there's already a payroll increase to $125-130 million on the books for next year, up from $117m this year, and that's with allowing Samardzija to walk. Just to avoid losing money, which this franchise does not like to do, they will either have to turn this season around or they will have to get rid of some fraction of that money. I think that Danks, Ramirez, and Shark could possibly go if it gets out of hand. Robertson, Melky, and LaRoche aren't going anywhere though and I'd probably rather have the 1st round pick for Shark than the package. I just think it's way too early to consider even talking about pulling the plug.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 13, 2015 -> 10:37 AM) On an unrelated sidenote, I have finally grown to accept the fact that if we lose tomorrow, Thibs is gone and should be gone. I think Thibs is a great coach but I also think this whole situation wears on the players and everyone so if JR is going to pick the front office, then let them get the coach that they want. I just hope they don't mess up a good thing, cause this team is loaded and should actually get better (part of that is because I am buying into Drose and I obviously think highly of Butler / Nikolai. I also hope Noah can be better (with an off-season to rest). Key is going to be finding another big though to develop since our bigs are older. I would try to move Noah this summer. His contract is up after next season and they can't pay him again. They need to get much more athletic and they will be giving Jimmy a max deal.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 12, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Another ex-Illinois player now speaks out. I wonder if this will end with Beckman's job (it shouldnt). It will probably end with the AD's job though.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 3, 2015 -> 10:35 PM) Mad Men. Seriously great show. This is getting sad. Yeah Sunday is going to be great and depressing at the same time. I wish it wasn't ending. But it's time.

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 12, 2015 -> 09:09 PM) He said he couldn't run up or down the court today. You can't play 4 on 5 defensively even if Gasol doesn't move much on that end. Why can't they? They've been playing 3 on 5 offensively with Hinrich and Noah on the floor. Tony Snell played what 5 minutes? 22 for Hinrich? Does Hinrich do anything better than Snell at this point?

QUOTE (WBWSF @ May 12, 2015 -> 10:18 PM) I'LL say it again. Bad teams + bad stadium location + bad stadium upper deck= BAD ATTENDANCE. Considering everything I'm convinced that if the White Sox draw 2 million people a year, they've done well. Anything above 2 million is a bonus. The location is fine. The Upper Deck is also fine. Sox fans are a fickle b****. That's the problem. We are excuse makers. Just the way it is.

Why are people talking about selling guys that were just signed? That's not going to happen. The White Sox are not the Marlins. The White Sox have a front four of Sale-Q-Samardzija-Rodon and a really good bullpen. I honestly think the Sox are more likely to add than subtract. They didn't spend $$ to turn around and sell.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 12, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) BPA is a myth in relation to the MLB draft. Sure everyone once in a while there is a sure fire guy like Strasburg or Harper that jump out as the best players in their draft, but other than that it is always a weighted argument. The factors that need to be balanced are players floors and ceilings, risk of a player meeting/not meeting their ceiling. Thing there are things like organizational and cultural (style of baseball) fit. I saw that as well, not sure that I like the idea of Jay that high. He has pretty good stuff but has been in the bullpen his entire college career and has a build that would indicate he will be a bullpen arm in the future. If they are viewing him as a bullpen piece to help them this season (like Finnegan) that could make sense. I'm sure they'd be looking to develop him as a starting pitcher. Could start in the pen though like Sale and Rodon. He has 3 pitches and the fact that he doesn't have a ton of innings could be seen as a good thing actually.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 12, 2015 -> 11:21 AM) Funkhouser seems to be the exact thing that the Sox tend to go after. Great FB, solid secondary pitches that should develop into plus, just needs a little refinement to reach his ceiling. Plus being a local kid really helps as well. Unless he is gone, I would be surprised if he is not the pick. If he is gone, the Sox may roll the dice and go underslot on Matuella and offer him $1.4M. Since he is injured the Sox are only required to give him 40% of slot value to get compensation if he does not sign. If he does, you have a guy that was the pre-season #1 overall pick (two years in a row) at a discount and can use the $2M saved to get some high end talent that slips due to signablitiy. If he doesn't sign you have two first round picks, including #9 overall, in what figures to be a much better draft next season. Law and McDaniel both have them on Illinois LHP Tyler Jay as well.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 11, 2015 -> 10:23 AM) Keith Law and Kiley McDaniel have pretty solid intel. I'd be surprised if it's not a college pitcher for the White Sox I am relaxed. Read it differently.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 11, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) For some reason, I feel it won't be pretty having Abreu play third base. First of all, teams that don't get a minimum of two bunt hits a game won't be trying. Second, I just can't picture him dazzling with the glove at 3B when he is blah to lousy at first. And the point of doing it was to take the slight defensive hit from Gillaspie to Abreu while having a better lineup offensively. They obviously didn't do it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 11, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Seems appropriately harsh to me and a dumb way to try to get an advantage. Is Aaron Rodgers getting suspended for over inflating the balls? Many teams do this. I see it in high school games every Friday. The problem is that Goodell is just such a boob. He just makes up punishments. Instead of having a punishment ready to go as soon as the report was released, he waited to gauge public opinion and then did it. He is the head of a billion dollar company. Make a f***ing decision. That report exonerated the Patriots but then for some reason they get fined $1 million and get 2 picks taken away? It just doesn't make any sense. There is also no proof that Brady did anything. I'm sure he did but they don't have anything. Garopallo will go 1-1 in the first 2 and then Brady will lead the Patriots back to playoffs again. The 1st round pick matters much more than the suspension.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 11, 2015 -> 09:51 AM) Ok for starters, there were quite a few players who got hurt in the beginning of the season or during. Of those I am going to mention that some may not have realize or known about. 1. Tyler Stephenson – cat – prep – came back early most already know of him. 2. Jake Lemoine – sp – college – hurt his should was ranked #9 coming into the season, still no surgery, no further info., 3. Kendall Rogers – sp – college – acl injury. Rtn unknown. 4. Kep Brown – of – prep. Predicted if all went well, should have made the 1 round. A better version of Chris Shaw. Another name that was an exciting prep player just removed his name for the mlb draft. This player is Kyler Murray – ss – predicted to be a 1 rounder. He is predicted to be a 1 rounder in football…. Multi talented player. Now, another thing that is being discussed, the wild card, UNDER SLOT agreements with the players, as of thursday their was talked of just Arz and their #1 pick. But there is discussion that Hou and Col are thinking the same. This is going to throw a huge monkey wrench into the mechanism. So I see, if true, most of the mock draft up to now as being nothing but good reading. Arz – either .T. Stephenson – cat – prep or G. Whitley – of – prep, tough choice Hou – they need infielder - Dansby Swanson – ss – college Cou - I thought Brendan Rodgers – ss – prep, but now I don’t know if it a prep SP Tex – if Rodgers is there is not, D. Tate – sp – college Hou – here I s the underslot deal, so who will it be, Cameron, Tucker – preston brother, hou outfielder, or Chris Bettis, cat- prep, surprise name here . Minny – who in hades know. No word out of their camp. A college SP or Of . Bos. – either Bergman - ss or Buehler – sp – both college. Sox - under slot. pick Donnie Dewees - of - college, tied for the ncaa in homers, walks and hits, plus among the top for sb. Now the sox at 8, I was really thinking outside the box here. I looked at the needs of the team. So I had several options. SP - Jake Lemoine, but since this morning and no surgery, forget about it. Next I am leaning on: Donnie Dewees – of – college. He is arguable the best hitter in college this yr, supplanting Happ and others. He is in the top 2 or 3 in most offensive categories, can play most any OF positions but he is a CF’er. David Thompson – 3b – college, got hurt, missed his soph yr, came out last cape and was in the tops in hits and hrs. this yr, continued hitting homers and is good at defense. hard to choice http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/strong-spri...top-few-rounds/ http://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1 http://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/individual/321 http://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/individual/483 http://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/individual/200 Keith Law and Kiley McDaniel have pretty solid intel. I'd be surprised if it's not a college pitcher for the White Sox