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This was the excellent post by lasttriptotulsa that detailed Rodon's situation in the Prospect Watch thread: You still don't quite have it. If he starts with the team next year, he will not be Super 2. To qualify for Super 2 status a player must have more than 2 years, but less than 3 years service time and rank in the top 22% of all 2 years players regarding service time. If he is with the team next year opening day, he would not have enough service time after his 2nd year to qualify for Super 2 as he would just have 2 years and 1 month. Here are the ways his time with the White Sox could be laid out. If he starts with the team next year regardless of whether he comes up in September: 2015: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2016: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2017: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2018: Arbitration 1 2019: Arbitration 2 2020: Arbitration 3 2021: Free Agent If he comes up in September and doesn't start with the team next year but gets called up BEFORE his Super 2 cutoff (August-ish): 2015: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2016: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2017: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2018: Arbitration 1 (Super 2) 2019: Arbitration 2 2020: Arbitration 3 2021: Arbitration 4 2022: Free Agent If he comes up in September and doesn't start with the team next year but gets called up AFTER his Super 2 cutoff (August-ish): 2015: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2016: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2017: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2018: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2019: Arbitration 1 2020: Arbitration 2 2021: Arbitration 3 2022: Free Agent If he doesn't come up in September and doesn't start with the team next year but gets called up BEFORE his Super 2 cutoff (July-ish): 2015: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2016: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2017: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2018: Arbitration 1 (Super 2) 2019: Arbitration 2 2020: Arbitration 3 2021: Arbitration 4 2022: Free Agent If he doesn't come up in September and doesn't start with the team next year but gets called up AFTER his Super 2 cutoff (July-ish): 2015: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2016: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2017: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2018: Team Control (near minimum salary) 2019: Arbitration 1 2020: Arbitration 2 2021: Arbitration 3 2022: Free Agent While it may seem like a good idea to hold off on calling him up until after opening day next year because you push his FA date out until 2022, a good portion of that extra year will be spent in the minors and you will end up paying him a hell of lot if he qualifies for Super 2 because of the 4 years of arbitration. If he doesn't qualify for Super 2, you're waiting until the season is more than half over so he spent the majority of the time in that "extra" year pitching in the minors. I think the best thing to do is just call him up in September to let him get his feet wet, start him next year with the big league team to go through the growing pains and then in 2016 we should be ready to compete and Rodon will have a year plus experience and should be ready to really help the team.

You'll see him in the rotation after the Super 2 cutoff. This was all detailed in another thread somewhere. I will try and find it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 16, 2014 -> 09:14 AM) Anderson's getting some great reviews so far with his performance in the AFL. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/98576616/whi...in-glendale-win

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 16, 2014 -> 09:14 AM) Anderson's getting some great reviews so far with his performance in the AFL. He should be. Kid is a stud. Legit top 50 prospect.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 15, 2014 -> 11:13 PM) Erik Johnson was so bad. Man. Sox have money to spend and could easily swipe needed righty Shields from the Royals' grasp. In fact, it might be wise to steal Shields, Aoki and Butler and take away their mojo. Suddenly we have to worry about the Royals being the new Tigers. Hahn could really strip the mojo by signing those three Royals. Shields ... 3 years 45 million. Butler ... 2 years 12 million with option year. Aoki ... 2 years 10 million. Is it worth the risk? Throwing 67 million at Royals over 7 years? It's just 26 million to Royals for next season. Sox payroll is fine after adding the 26 mill. LOL. Shields will get a 5 year deal around $90 million. I would like more power than Aoki provides out of the other OF and Butler is meh. The guy I'd sign from the Royals is Luke Hochevar.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 16, 2014 -> 07:54 AM) The one positive to Melky's past PED use is that it should limit the overall contract length. My guess is he gets something like 3/$45M and maybe even a little less in terms of AAV if he's given a qualifying offer. I really don't think anyone will be willing to go four years with him due to his baggage. While I do have some concerns about Melky going forward, I think the deal I mentioned above is a no-brainer for us. Melky for 3 years and $45 million would be outstanding. I think he gets more than that though.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 15, 2014 -> 11:14 PM) Are these Melky rumors really valid? Thought of him being on the team is already ruining my offseason. Why would that ruin your offseason?

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 16, 2014 -> 05:41 AM) this is where I would like to ask, would you put him #1 in the lineup and Eaton #2? 1. Eaton 2. Markakis 9. Johnson That's how I'd go...

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 15, 2014 -> 12:23 PM) Trading the little bit of young pitching we have is not advisable. That's how we got into this mess. Sox couldnt' even cobble together a decent starting 5 last year, not to mention a bullpen. Sure as heck don't need another Swisher trade. Sox are actually pretty deep with young SP. Just isn't really close to the majors. Carlos Rodon Francellis Montas Tyler Danish Spencer Adams Luis Martinez Chris Beck Chris Bassitt Erik Johnson That doesn't even mention the bullpen types. I'm not advocating trading them. I am just pointing out that the system is as flush with quality SP as it's been in awhile.

QUOTE (Greyone @ Oct 14, 2014 -> 01:09 PM) Same, I can see having a team you like/ or a team you follow in the other conference but never in the same. I have a hard enough time emotionally following one team, could never follow another that deeply. My girlfriend is a Pittsburgh sports fan. I'd like to see the Pirates and Steelers win if the Bears and Sox don't but I'm never affected by losses.

I'll never understand having a 2nd favorite team. Doesn't make sense to me. Maybe I'm just weird.

QUOTE (MAX @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 06:45 PM) If the sox purposely acquire an admitted steroid user via a large free agency contract, I'll probably not watch baseball anymore. Its one thing to take on prospects who are struggling to make the bigs. Its another entirely to recruit and reward a known cheater via huge contract. Haha you might as well stop watching sports then. Sports are littered with bad guys. The 2005 White Sox had steroid users on the team and nobody really cared. If you could guarantee me that Melky would come here and solidify the lineup, I don't really care what means he takes to do that.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 05:08 PM) The laziness of the Cleuluis Rondon section is just awful. "The White Sox also acquired glove-first infielder Cleuluis Rondon from Boston in the trade. Rondon entered the season as the No. 26 prospect in the system and is good enough defensively to be a shortstop — if his bat ever catches up." He is good enough defensively to be a shortstop. Really? That's all the writer could come up with? Do some research on the other prospects of the trade. Cleuluis is another prospect with great potential. His bat was good enough while in A+. That defense at shortstop is so valuable. He is known for his plus-plus defense at shortstop. Embarrassing on Dan Hayes part. Stating " He is good enough defensively to be a shortstop" is selling him very short. Rondon has been a bit undersold but defense isn't sexy. If Rondon hits over .200 he'll be a major leaguer. That's the bottom line.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 06:25 PM) Stevenson Football is the Atlanta Braves of HS football, minus the one ring. It will help Stevenson that they won't have to run the gauntlet in 8A though. 7A will be much tougher because many of the best teams end up in 7A lately.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 06:20 PM) Nah, Stevenson. I might be off a year. Okay. We played Stevenson in 2002. Maine South in 2003.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 11, 2014 -> 04:55 PM) There you go. So Law says that with Montas quickly emerging into a front-line starter prospect, the Sox will have 4 in the top 100 (Montas plus presumably Anderson, Rodon and ?). So that brings up a good question - do we move Quintana or [gasp] Sale to bring in some top flight positional talent? Rodon, Anderson, Montas, and Danish

I agree with the above posters for the most part about Gone Girl. It was great. Stayed very true to the book.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 07:40 AM) Moved to Pittsburgh for a 1 year ish job at the start of August. My girlfriend's family is from Pittsburgh. I usually go 2-3 times per year. It's a fun town.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 05:54 AM) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2202809...-season/page/10 Obviously, 50% of this is due to Rodon's presence alone, but the article nicely sums up the progress this year of Anderson, Hawkins, Montas, Danish and Adams, as well as Micah Johnson. (Whether you agree or disagree, Danish is already being placed here on the "future bullpen piece" list instead of being viewed as a starter, at least for the moment.) So, despite the "disappointments" with Semien, Daniel Webb, Erik Johnson, Davidson...and that earlier "core" group of outfielders in Walker/Thompson/Mitchell, things are looking up for the moment. It's so lazy that people look at Danish's delivery and make him a future bullpen piece. Watch the kid pitch. I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting at Charlotte to end next season.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 09:13 PM) So the Blackhawks are in town literally the night before my birthday in January. For anyone who's gone to a Hawks away game, how much is a lower deck seat worth to me and what is the appropriate thing to wear? Just red in general if I don't own the jersey? Balta, you live in Pittsburgh?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 12:34 PM) It'll be interesting to see where he goes. That same guy that tweeted about the Sox and Tomas said that Abreu is pushing the front office to sign him. The tweet is in his replies to another person. The guy that tweeted it is George Ofman. He's a longtime Chicago Update Guy on the radio and he doesn't usually break news. He tweeted the Tomas stuff the other day and today he tweeted that Puig is available and the Cubs are one of the teams interested. Weird that he's tweeting about rumors.

With all of the Cutler discussion lately, this is a great place to put this: https://medium.com/the-cauldron/i-love-that...im-da88cea5f066 It is written by Tim Baffoe of the 670 The Score writing staff. This piece basically sums up my feelings about Jay Cutler. It is well written and really really good. Some will hate it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 8, 2014 -> 08:25 AM) I'd agree that Birmingham could be a really fun team to watch next year. Rotation likely includes Montas and Danish, plus some combo of Recchia/Bucciferro/Wendelken/Jaye (Recchia may start in AAA, Wendelken may go back to relief) to make up what should be a pretty solid rotation. The lineup should include Anderson, Hawkins and Coats, but the rest of the lineup I'm not sure will be that great. May and Barnum don't look ready to me, DeMichele just hasn't put it together, Heisler is an org guy... Narvaez might be something. I get what you are saying. I just meant that 2 of the Sox best pitching prospects and the 2 best position player prospects will all be in AA. That's exciting.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 02:58 PM) I was at that championship game. Sad times. Are you from Maine South?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 02:49 PM) Are u sure they we're br fans? Disappointing if so Oh yeah I'm sure. It doesn't mean they are all bad. It was just my experience from 10 years ago. I coach at Lockport now and BR isn't really on my radar. We wouldn't play them until the playoffs and we haven't been good enough lately for that to happen.