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timdierkes ‏@timdierkes 1m1 minute ago Felipe Paulino has been told his $4MM club option will not be picked up by the White Sox.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 30, 2014 -> 02:22 PM) No, but what do you think about the "Historic Signing"? What is that implying? I don't think they used those terms when the Sox signed Jerry Manuel. Not sure. That's a headline writer that does that though. Not Wittenmeyer. It will be historic in the sense that he's probably going to make about $30 million.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 30, 2014 -> 02:08 PM) Check the headline http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cu...e-thursday.html Nowhere in that article does it say that the Cubs are going to win the World Series because they hired Joe Maddon.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 30, 2014 -> 11:14 AM) Bears and Emery's problem has more to do with the fact that our defense and special teams are putrid and the personell moves have been bad. We missed the boat on most of our FA signings this year and even last year didn't get the impacts we expected. We also seemed to miss the boat in the evaluation of guys we brought back / opted not to replace (e.g., any of our linebackers). Those things can't be excused. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...1029-story.html Very good article with commentary from an ex front office guy and Cowher. Very good insights and a lot of the issues are focused on roster construction. They also blast our oline. I disagree here. The money was pumped into the offense primarily because it's supposed to be great. If they had a top 5 offense, it could carry a below average D. I agree with the philosophy of playing young players on ST though rather than signing veteran ST lifers to play those spots. The defense is bad and injured. However, if they were playing with leads like it was designed, it wouldn't be as bad as it has been. The offense was supposed to be better and that is why the team is failing currently. The overall problem is a lack of talent in spots though. It goes back to years and years of bad drafting. Angelo/Lovie tandem had some horrible, horrible drafts. Emery has been pretty hit or miss as well. I liked the last 2 drafts a lot on the surface. Long and Jeffery are pro bowlers. Fuller looks like a pro bowler. Sutton, Ferguson, and O'Donnell look like good picks and I was a fan of KaDeem Carey and Brock Vereen coming out. Not to mention, they added guys like Terrance Mitchell, Ahmad Dixon, and Christian Jones from waivers or UDFA. Last year, he got value in Jordan Mills and I think Bostic is fine if he's at the proper position (WLB). He probably has to hit at a higher rate than that but the only way to truly get out of the rut that they are in is by accumulating good drafts. It takes awhile and fans don't want to hear it because it's not a quick fix but it's the truth.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 30, 2014 -> 01:13 PM) It is a good move my problem is that the minion media and fans will pencil it in as a world series guarantee and the hoopla and pageantry will be off the charts. I don't think this is entirely true. Find me examples of people in the media that actually think that the Cubs are going to win the World Series because they hired Joe Maddon. I think it improves their chances. I think that Maddon is great at handling young players and making the pieces fit. I think the Cubs have enough young talent to compete starting in 2016. If the Cubs win divisions and get into the playoffs on a consistent basis, they have as good of a chance as the other teams. They might win one soon. Joe Maddon would have something to do with it if so but no he wouldn't be the "sole reason" why it happened.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 30, 2014 -> 11:09 AM) It was first game with a new offense. I think we are judging Knicks and Fisher too harshly on one game. I don't because they just aren't talented. That's like the 9th or 10th seed in the Eastern Conference.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 30, 2014 -> 09:27 AM) 2014 Joe Maddon 77 wins--Baseball genius. Should make Cubs multiple World Series winners. Robin Ventura-73 wins--Biggest dope ever. Well if you think Robin Ventura is a better manager than Joe Maddon, I have some s*** to sell you. I never said he'd win the World Series. I just said it was an excellent hire. Little bit over the top here I think.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 30, 2014 -> 08:47 AM) Have you had to deal with Cub fans your whole life? I'm genuinely asking, not being a smartass. Because that's where my hatred is borne from; they're the worst. I suppose I have. Don't really care though. As soon as the Sox won a World Series that s*** ended for me. I like the Cubs plan. I like the prospects. I hope that they get good and push the White Sox to remain good as well. It's f***ing Chicago. Both teams should be consistently good. I guess I'd just rather have Joe Maddon in town than somewhere else.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 30, 2014 -> 08:21 AM) Jimmy Claussen Josh McCown Jason Campbell Caleb Hanie Todd Collins Rex Grossman Kyle Orton Brian Griese Certainly these guys are better than Cutler. Haha nice.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 29, 2014 -> 06:25 PM) Fans are idiots. SS, you are a good poster but this is your best one by far. Love it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Danish and Montas are both in the Birmingham rotation in AA. Tim Anderson and Courtney Hawkins will most likely both be there as well.

I love reading threads that benefit the Cubs after the fact. It's just a poo poo platter of jealousy on this board. There were a couple of posters who think it's wrong to get rid of Renteria? Go crawl in a hole somewhere. If you think Maddon is one of the best managers in baseball, you fire your current manager and hire him. I wish the Sox would have been in position to do something like that. The built in hatred for a team in the NL that happens to be across town cracks me up sometimes. I would have been more upset if he went to Minnesota or Detroit.

From the MLBTradeRumors chat on Adam Lind: Comment From Bret Although it could be nothing, the Jays claiming Justin Smoak adds, um, smoke, to the Adam Lind rumours. Who are some teams you see as landing spots for him, and what can the Jays hope for in return? 2:01 Steve Adams: I don't think it's nothing. Smoak's going to make nearly $3MM next season -- they're basically giving him Lind's roster spot in my mind. Tigers, White Sox, Mariners all make some sense for Lind. I don't know that the return is enormous, but I think you can get something along the lines of a bullpen piece or a solid, if somewhat unspectacular prospect back. Fourth/fifth starter type of ceiling that's a bit of a ways off from the Majors?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 29, 2014 -> 11:17 AM) http://www.southsidesox.com/2014-15-white-...signated-hitter Documents the top 10-12 DH choices and puts them into tiers... really hard to get excited about the Sox acquiring any of them for obvious reasons with each particular player...we know we don't want to give Victor Martinez $56 million over 4 years and Hahn hasn't distinguished himself with bargain basement free agent shopping Trade for Adam Lind.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 29, 2014 -> 08:59 AM) He put up worse numbers, but it basically works out to be a correction to his career splits. We watched Mark Buehrle pitch for 10 years. He's the same pitcher now that he was then. He's going to have times when he pitches absolute gems and others when he gets hit around quite a bit. I think $15 million would be more wisely spent on something else. I loved Buehrle. I think that ship has sailed though.

Davis is the 3rd best player in the NBA currently. I hope he decides to "go home" at some point too.

Wasn't Buehrle pretty bad in the 2nd half?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 28, 2014 -> 11:23 AM) I'm with Y20Jimmy, I say we trade for Lind. What do you think it'd take? You frequent Toronto boards don't you?

Gordon Wittenmeyer from the Sun-Times says that Jon Lester and Jake Peavy is a package deal to the Cubs in the offseason. Not too surprising.

Sox acquire DH Adam Lind in about a week from Toronto.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 01:13 PM) I know this is sort of anti-fan, and despite the lack of sacks, Houston hasn't really been turrible but LMAO. What a clown. No, Houston is a big loss. He has been really good against the run.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 01:06 PM) Who are the pro bowl players? Alshon Jeffery and Kyle Long. Kyle Fuller will be.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 12:34 PM) I'm ready to switch gears and go with a 3-4. This keeps Bostic on the field for coverage purposes and allows the Bears to pair him with a run stuffing ILB to kinda help cover up his flaws in the run game. Jones might be that guy. SMC is then allowed to play the position that had him highly regarded in the draft...Thinkin Willie Young could be solid standing up, but wouldn't hate to see a young freak drafted to play the position. ' They don't have the personnel to run a 34 front. They just don't. They just drafted Sutton. They signed Young and Allen. They don't fit. Greene doesn't fit. Bostic could probably play ILB in a 34 front but it wouldn't be his best spot. They also don't have CB/S that are good in man coverage. You have to play man coverage if you are going to a 3-4. Just doesn't make sense.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 11:24 AM) And as I said, that sounds like a problem for Emery. If that is the case, see you later and hand the full reigns to Harbaugh. Disagree. I'm not ready to let Jim Harbaugh choose the players too. He could coach my team but having full control is too much power. Phil Emery has drafted a Pro Bowler in each of his 3 drafts so far.

QUOTE (Jake @ Oct 27, 2014 -> 12:02 PM) Bostic is far and away the best option in the middle at this point. I think he may yet turn into a pretty good player. Has to be healthy though. You don't see many crucial defensive players with constant injury concerns like you do with skill guys on offense, so he needs to get on the field and put this behind him. As for scheme, when you have every Tom, Dick, and Harry you've ever scouted out on the field, you just can't do much. Half the snaps, we don't even have the play caller on the field. Getting Briggs back will be helpful in that regard, but you still have guys that are just jumping into our system. One thing that it will be interesting to see play out is what the FO thinks of everyone irrespective of performance. If the feeling is that Trestman has a special mind for offense/football, they'll be willing to see more s*** go downhill and place blame elsewhere than if they've been uncertain from the get-go. Same for anyone else involved, of course. Just like why we've dealt with so much Jay Cutler BS. We could all see a special QB in there somewhere, so sometimes we chose to disregard current performance in hopes of seeing that good guy come out. Bostic's best position is as a run and chase WLB. Christian Jones is a SLB. Greene is a backup. The Bears don't have an answer at MLB on the roster.