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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 04:51 PM) No, I will not give you a break. He has shown anger and retaliation on the track before. Of course people would think he would be more likely to be do something out of anger than Jimmie Johnson, whom I assume is not a hot head, based on your use of him as the other extreme. Tony Stewart is kind of an asshole and has had altercations so you think that means that he purposely tried to run over a person? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 04:30 PM) My first instinct would be to drive low on the track where it's flat and not near the guy yelling coming towards my car. Right but you can't prove that he had enough time to do that. He's worried about driving and not seeing what that idiot was doing. You have been assuming an awful lot in this thread.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 01:02 AM) Ah, so he just blindly slammed on the gas then. Even smarter. If he would have hit the breaks on the dirt he probably would have still hit him. My first instinct would be to accelerate through as well. Get off the f***ing track.

I agree with Steve. It's Natural Selection. Anybody stupid enough to walk out on the track probably would have found another way to die before too long.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 04:20 PM) Why is Tony Stewart still racing on dirt tracks, that is my question in all of this. I know little about auto racing but what is the difference in that and Kane playing hockey in a church league? He's still racing on dirt tracks because he likes it and owns teams I believe. He can if he wants to. He doesn't have a wife or kids and that's how he chooses to spend his time.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 03:40 PM) Treat your players with respect. He still gets the loudest cheers at USCF. It is good at least the "casual" fan appreciates him. Call me a meathead fan, but his overall body of work, and this one AB should be enough for White Sox fans to let him go out like he wants to go out Treat your players with respect? Who is disrespecting him? I respect him. I just don't need to see him on my television. The majority of the fan base doesn't respect Dunn. He's one of "our" players.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 10:01 PM) Not a flame on Robin. I'm convinced with the extension and his low-key demeanor, he's just what the Sox players and front office want and will be our skipper for many many years to come. No sense worrying about something I can't change. But I was wondering after talking to an Orioles fan who was GUSHING about Buck Showalter. Tell the truth ... with Buck, would we be a playoff team this year? Is Buck that good? Robin is learning on the job and a player's manager obviously. If Buck was our skipper, would the Sox be rolling right now?? Just wondered if he's THAT GOOD and Robin more average to middle of the road? This Oriole fan I know was insistent Buck is the man. No. A manager doesn't turn a bad baseball team into a playoff team.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 06:13 PM) Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 2m Surkamp optioned. I would imagine that Lindstrom may be coming back but that leaves no LHP in the bullpen. Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane 3m White Sox option Eric Surkamp to AAA Charlotte to make room for Matt Lindstrom's return Tuesday. Sox will go without lefty in pen.

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 2m Surkamp optioned. I would imagine that Lindstrom may be coming back but that leaves no LHP in the bullpen.

QUOTE (BaconOnAStick @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 05:11 PM) Noesi, Alexei and Gillaspie all matter quite a bit. I would also say John Danks and his $14.5m salary matters (for different reasons). Why is this entire board so blinded by youth and cost control? If a guys not in his first couple years in the league or signed to ludicrously undervalued contracts they just don't matter? Give me a break. Okay great thanks for clarifying. Noesi, Ramirez, and Gillaspie aren't part of the problem either. Go ahead and include them. I'm not sold that any of them are part of the core of the next great White Sox team though.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 03:58 PM) No way I'd make that deal in a second if they the Angels paid the salary.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 01:56 PM) The defense is a huge problem moving forward. That and the bullpen. The future does not look bright right now as the team currently stands - current players and minor leaguers. Lot of work to be done by Hahn to get this team out of the division cellar. The only guys that matter on this team are Sale, Quintana, Eaton, Abreu, Garcia, and some young bullpen guys. The core 5 have all been pretty good. The White Sox are bad because they have too many bad players. Those guys will not be around. The system is much improved and at the moment looks to be pretty well stocked with promising young starting pitching. This is also Chicago and the team has a ton of payroll flexibility to go along with another potential top 10 draft pick. I would argue that the future looks incredibly bright. The brightest it has looked in some time.

John Danks to the Angels for Hector Santiago.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) Wow, tough grader. Bad for 2.5 years? Are you counting this year? This year he's not being given a fair chance. He's actually still a decent player in my book. He's still the best at scooping throws. Until the last 20 or so at bats was around .250. I won't go on my diatribe about Mr. 44 RBI Adam Dunn, but Paul Konerko is the LEAST of the Sox problems the past several years IMO. I can't understand why Sox fans aren't showing him total love like Yankee fans with Jeter. This guy won us a world series. Let me ask you. What do you think the odds are of the Sox ever winning another one in your lifetime? I'd say the odds are about 50-1. Jerry isn't going to win another one. It will be a matter of who gets the team and if it's Jerry's relative, the odds remain at best 50-1 in your lifetime IMO. If it's somebody like Cuban with money money money the odds will improve. Thank u Paul Konerko! I have no reply to this because I will get suspended and I enjoy this site quite a bit

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 08:46 PM) To me Rodon is a given. It's just nice to have Montas, Danish, Adams, and even Beck and Bassitt behind him. If just two of those guys figure it out (or EJ rediscovers...everything) then there are your two righties to compliment Sale, Quintana and Rodon. Don't sleep on Luis Martinez either.

6 up and 6 down for Luis Martinez in Great Falls.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 04:20 PM) Are people not understanding that our starting CF just went on the DL so we need someone to play CF who isn't Garcia or De Aza? The answer is Jordan Danks.. If it was De Aza or Viciedo who went down, we probably would have seen Taylor I think people understand. I also understand that the White Sox are a bad baseball team. Without Eaton they are worse. Just play De Aza in CF. It doesn't really matter. Playing De Aza and Leury in CF also gives the team a much better chance at a top 10 pick.

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 03:31 PM) Michael Taylor is like 30 now. Rather see Sierra continue to get at bats. Danks is fine as late inning replacement for Tank. I think Taylor is 28. He was also once a top prospect and is playing pretty well at Charlotte. They also traded an actual prospect for him. Thought he'd get a look.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 03:29 PM) Insult aside, talk about Dunn vs lefties please. I truly think he of the whopping 44 RBI is on his farewell tour too Dunn is bad against LHP. Here's my point though: Dunn is better against LHP than PK is against RHP. Konerko has 4 homers vs LHP all year. If you let Dunn hit against LHP all season, he'd have a lower batting average for sure but he'd definitely have more than 4 home runs. Konerko is offering nothing. Unless he is hitting for power he's useless because he's horrible on the bases.

I've always wanted a top ten pick again. There are really only 5 guys that matter on the current roster. Sale and Quintana are already locked up for years. Eaton is back on the DL. Abreu is a stud and locked up for six years and Garcia is in Charlotte. Nobody else on the current roster matters. Most will not be back other than some of the young bullpen guys. Losing more won't affect the future at all because the guys that are responsible for the losing suck and won't be around anyway. Those of you that want Hahn to sign a free agent that may have a QO should be rooting for losses. I don't think Hahn will give up his 2nd rounder to sign a QO free agent but he definitely won't give up his 1st rounder to sign someone.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 03:17 PM) Really thought Michael Taylor would be the next outfielder up, not sure the point of dealing away Jake Sanchez if not. I could deal with De Aza in CF if we could see what we had in Taylor. Completely agree. Don't really understand the need to see Jordan Danks ever again.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 01:15 PM) In fact, I believe it's at 41 if you include Avisail. Someone needs to go in order to activate him from the 60 man within the next week and a half. Candidates? Paul Konerko

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 12:06 PM) Up until the most recent fizz, the team was a good bullpen away from being right there for the wild card. That is false.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 01:14 PM) Not to hijack the thread, but this is Dunn's farewell tour, too. I notice in the Wilkins thread, a lot of people still think some team is going to acquire Dunn for the stretch run. Looking at his splits and his stats, he also looks like a guy, just like Paulie, who is finished and I dispel any thought he'll be joining a contender. Adam can't hit a lefty just like Paulie can't hit a righty and like Paulie, he can't run either. I think Dunn will retire after this season. In 169 plate appearances, Paul Konerko has 7 walks and 5 homers. He has an OPS of .654 and an ops+ of 82. In 386 plate appearances, Adam Dunn has 61 walks and 17 homers. He has an ops of .768 and an ops+ of 115. Greg, stop embarrassing yourself and close the computer.

FutureSox.com ‏@FutureSox 1m Roster moves: OF Adam Engel promoted to @WSDashBaseball, OF Chevy Clarke promoted to @Intimidators from @gfvoyagers. I would imagine that Jacob May is heading to Birmingham as well. He was pulled yesterday mid game and this move puts Hawkins, Engel, and Coats in the WS OF.