Chicago White Sox

Everyone’s favorite corner OF Michael Conforto got $17M from the Dodgers a year ago despite coming off a 1.3 fWAR season and lacking the upside of Luis.

I can’t fathom him getting less than Ardolis Garcia. $8M to $10M is basically like 1 to 1.5 WAR money. I think his $20M salary is probably closer to reality.

Like three days ago

Why would the NFL model not work for the MLB?

What would Robert get on the open market exactly?

I took the 2024 revenue figures from Forbes for all teams but the Dodgers and backed out ~$100M for non-local revenue sources. That got me to about $300M on average. Unfortunately, I don’t have audited financials for each team, so this is about the best I could do. All that being said, I’m not sure what point your are arguing with. Could some of these clubs spend more money? Of course they could, cheap owners is a problem and they need to be addressed. But it doesn’t change the fact the Dodgers would still be able to outspend them by 2x to 2.5x and still not go into the red. You can try to argue this any way you want, but my point will continue to hold true.

I think their concern is more with his health. As a league average hitter with his defense and base-running value, he’s easily worth his $20M salary if he give you 140 starts in CF.

Yes exactly this. The Yankees are the one team close to them. There are a handful of other teams that are within the same stratospshere. And then 20+ teams that aren’t even remotely close.

That’s a lot of coin bro! But in all seriousness, saying they are paying $256M in core revenue sharing is not accurate because they are probably receiving $150M back from all the other teams. Even with that and their luxury tax payments, they can still rock a $400M payroll and rock a profit. You can argue this any way you want, but my point doesn’t change. The Dodgers have a huge financial edge over almost very club, even with them being burdened by revenue sharing.

Sure, but that’s very different than saying they are giving up 48% of their TV deal. The reality is they have a massive edge over pretty much every single team.

I actually don’t disagree with you if it was reasonable, but zero chance the Sox consider a Robert extension and I doubt we’d like the terms Boras would ask for.

Just me and @Bob Sacamano trying to will it to fruition

Yes, but my point is then are also getting 48% of everyone’s else’s revenue.

I’d love to have a DH (or 1B) that is actually a potential thumper. 29 HR’s as a 21 year old in the upper minors is impressive, even if there isn’t a lot more physical projection left and he comes with contact warts. I think it’s a prospect profile that is a bit undervalued by major league front offices in this day & age.

Didn’t the Blue Jays offer him significantly more than the Dodgers? What am I missing here.

No

Lol…what am I salty about? I like market size parity in sports, some of you guys like having super teams in large markets. Personally I think the NFL is hands down the best sports league and that’s because little shitholes like Green Bay & Buffalo can have consistently good teams. For some reason, certain posters here struggle to understand that market size generally leads to higher revenues and therefore higher spending and that alone does not mean those organizations have a greater desire to win. Very few owners (if any) routinely go into the red because they want to win more than anyone else. A handful of small market owners suck and live off their profits. The trust fund Ricketts do the same, but can still outspend small market teams by 2x to 3x. Some of the best run organizations like the Rays and Guardians simply can’t overcome this level of inequality on a consistent basis. Also, you are really missing the mark with this 48% revenue sharing figure. Each team contributes that much of their local revenue and then it’s redistributed equally across all 30 teams. So no, the Dodgers aren’t giving away 48% of their $330M deal, it would just a subset of that. And lucky for them, about $130M of this TV deal was exempt from revenue sharing last year it’s so significantly less. No matter how you want to slice or dice this, the Dodgers have a material economic advantage almost every other club. No other major sport is built this way and they are all the better for it from a parity perspective. I find it odd that so many Sox fans take this stance on this issue, but they are so salty about Jerry being cheap & risk adverse (rightfully so) that they ignore the broader inequality of the league.

I take it you aren’t a Ryan Clifford fan.

Because I do know the value of their regional TV deal and I can see their attendance figures and average ticket prices. I also know they have made a fuckton through Japan. The Forbes estimates seem to back all this up (beyond not accounting for Ohtani benefit).

I don’t have access their financials…not sure how you do either.

Again, two things can’t both be a problem. Got to stick to one thing and blame that at all costs…it’s the American way!

Don’t get too excited! The only reason Meidroth is not in the OD lineup is because I expect him to be injured. He’ll be right back at 2B and lead off when healthy!

Imagine this lineup in two years: Antonacci, 2B* Teel, CA* Cholowsky, SS C. Montgomery, 3B* Murakami, 1B* Bonemer, LF B. Montgomery, RF# Clifford, DH* Baldwin# / FA / Trade, CF Try to move Quero after the 2026 season for a CF. Carlson replaces Antonacci the following year if all goes to plan (and pushes Roch to 2B). Regardless, there would be a fuckton of potential with that lineup and adding 25 dongs from that Big Red Dog is a key part of it. Make it happen Getz!

Yup, Mets fans are saying the same things. Stearns doesn’t want to commit to that many years. Robert actually makes perfect sense for them. He’s a high risk, high reward player who they can afford to roll the dice on I hopes of narrowing their gap to the Dodgers come the playoffs.

A cap and floor with revenue sharing is what this league needs. I’m sure someone will say “the players will never agree to it”, but I feel like there are enough small market clubs who will take a hard stance this time and such a construct will help the broader player’s union if negotiated fairly.