Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 11:31 AM) No, his ceiling is certainly a starting outfielder but not exactly a franchise changing one. At his best you'd expect a fairly high average, but probably not .300. He should take walks, though, so an adequate OBP. I don't think anyone sees him even hitting 10 HRs, but that would probably be a max HR output. He should spray some doubles and triples and ideally swipe 40-50 bags with good defense. That's a not a value-less player by any stretch, but a secondary contributor on a good team. Alejandro is not the worst comparison, but ADA has more power and is not such a good base stealer. I said his ceiling was a "solid leadoff hitter" which is exactly what you described. I never called him a "franchise changing" anything. I'm not exactly sure what we're arguing here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 05:58 PM) You pretended my statement didn't happen. Are you ok with Santiago going back to the bullpen? So you are basing what you think the Sox should do assuming they will automatically make a stupid decision? When Peavy comes back, Axelrod is the guy who should get bumped from the rotation not Santiago. If that doesn't happen, that doesn't make trading Peavy for less than market value any less stupid.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 05:42 PM) I disagree that his ceiling is especially high. Low power, high strikeouts means he has to be an elite defender and basestealer which will be hard to quantify and still not be exceptionally valuable. He will be hard pressed to be as valuable as Alejandro De Aza. I still like him, but he is not really a high ceiling player IMO. What do you think his ceiling is? 4th OF? If so, he shouldn't even be considered a top 20 prospect.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) Depending on how you define "Sell low", yes. Would you take a lesser deal on Peavy if Santiago was the one going to the bullpen? You all know he would be. Moving Peavy does a ton of things for the Sox. It clears $20 million, it clears the 6 man rotation problem that would push Santiago back to the pen in July, and hopefully does add talent even if the return isn't incredible like some of you are hoping for. That $20 million could reshape the entire offense next offseason, and could do so basically without hurting the pitching staff. Moving Peavy is definitely going to hurt the pitching staff. He was incredible up until his last two starts, one in which he had a displaced rib, so let's not undervalue him. We do have a surplus of pitching, but Axelrod or whoever you replace him with is a signicant downgrade. I'm all for moving a starter, including Peavy, but only to add a potential impact talent for the offense. If Peavy can't get you that because of his injury, then look into dealing him in the offseason or just enjoy his surplus value next year. We can always trade another starter now or in the offseason. You definitely don't weaken your pitching staff and trade one of your best assets for below market value in order to give Axelrod some innings.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 05:19 PM) Who has written him off/been down on him? He's not a top 10 prospect right now but everything you've said is true. He's somewhere in the 10-20 range probably. Maybe writing him off wasn't the right choice of words, but I believe people are undervaluing him. IMO, he is still a top 10 prospect. I'm not going to let an aggressive assignment this year and injuries last year affect my perception of him. He has all the tools and skills needed to become a solid leadoff hitter at the major league level. Whether or not he can keep his K rate low enough in the future like he has been able to in June will ultimately determine his fate. I do think his ceiling is high enough to warrannt a top 10 spot in our system though.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 05:19 PM) It would be insane to sell low on Peavy for the sake of keeping Axelrod comfortable. This team's success is never going to hinge on Dylan Axelrod, now or in the next 5 years. He's better than replacement level, but he is absolutely not someone to keep you from maximizing a trade return on your most valuable trade chip. Thank you.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 05:14 PM) That's a terrible idea. Axelrod has shown he's got it in him to be a decent starter, he's not going to light the world on fire but he's a guy who can quite readily be a 2 WAR starter and that's a great asset to have at the back of the rotation. He's a guy who can help this team turn around and could well basically provide what Gavin Floyd has provided to this team if he can last 200 innings...which of course, requires sometime giving him innings. Putting him in the bullpen sabotages that and is just as silly as putting Santiago there. So you want to sell low on Peavy in order to give Axelrod innings?

I've noticed people are really down on Keenyn Walker. I know he sucked in his first two months in AA, which shouldn't be too surprising given that he only got 143 ABs in A+ last year, but he's starting to play very well in June. So far he's got a .300 AVG & .407 OBP on the month. The power is pretty much non-existant, but he does make up for some of that with stolen bases. He turns 23 in August, so he could start next year in AA and still be age appropriate. I definitely wouldn't write him off yet.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 04:09 PM) At least if it were me in that chair, I'd take the best offer I could get for Peavy, Crain, and Thornton. Rios I'd take plenty of phone calls on, but he'd be the guy I'd have a threshold on; I'd want something really good in return for him. Reed, Alexei would fit in that boat as well. There is no reason to just take the best offer on Peavy. Either get a ransom for him now or hold on to him for the rest of the year. It's not like SP will be in abundance come the offseason. He'll still be an incredibly valuable pitcher.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 04:22 PM) Rios' contract is good now. He's repeating his career year last year and is under contract for one more year plus an option at $12.5m per year. Over the past ten years, free agent market rates usually pay $5-7m per WAR. Rios is a 3-4 WAR OF being paid like a 2 WAR OF on a short term contract in which the second year is a team option. And it's the god damn trade deadline. So on top of Rios being a highly productive, underpaid OF with two plus years of team control, which you've shown is incredibly valuable, there is likely to be a limited supply of impact OFs available come July. Teams typically pay a premium for talent at the deadline and we have a guy who is much more than just a rental. Rios should command a very strong return. Peavy fits the same bill, but like others have already said the injury is a potential hinderance on getting full value. If that's the case, you hold on to him and consider moving another starter. I don't think you automatically have to move a starter at the deadline, but a guy like Quintana, who is young, cheap, left-handed, and under team control for multiple years, could possibly get you a king's ransom if a team is desperate for SP and doesn't want to use top prospects for a rental player. People need to put the Ray Durham fiasco behind them, because quality players are normally very expensive at the deadline. If Hahn plays the market right, he should be able to get real some nice prospects.

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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) What makes you think this? Almost everything I've read has Johnson sitting at 92-93, with the capability to run it up higher than that on occasion. I was actually about to post that exact same velocity range. And the scouting reports I've read say he can get it up to about 96 mph. So he may not have ace-like stuff, but with his control he has #2/#3 starter potential and a very high floor. On top of that, he's easily the surest prospect in the system, so he's totally an acceptable number one prospect, especially in a system like ours.

1. Erik Johnson 2. Courtney Hawkins 3. Trayce Thompson 4. Tim Anderson 5. Micah Johnson 6. Carlos Sanchez 7. Keenyn Walker 8. Chris Beck 9. Keon Barnum 10. Daniel Webb

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 07:35 AM) My prediction: Hahn doesn't make a move until at least July 20th, and when he does it'll be something like trading Lindstrom for a UT player prospect who is at least 2 years away. I just don't see that happening. Hahn has to realize this offense is a mess and that we need some young, talented bats to build around. Taking advantage of buyers at the deadline will be one of his best opportunities to do so. Peavy, Rios, Ramirez, De Aza, Crain, Thornton, & Lindstrom should all be available at the deadline for the right price. That doesn't mean you automatically trade them, at least not the relievers, but if you can get good value for Peavy and the position players you definitely move them. I actually think this offense can be improved pretty quickly if Hahn can make the right moves and acquire two young bats that can be in the everyday lineup next year and is willing to spend in the offseason. But the key is getting a couple cheap, cost-controlled bats at the deadline, so you can afford to fill your others in free agency.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 16, 2013 -> 09:49 AM) Do you actually believe that is his account? No, but then I saw Dan Hayes tweeting him back and wondered if it was.

https://mobile.twitter.com/IsPhegleyUpYet I'm not sure if any of the FutureSox people can verify, but is this really Josh Phegley's twitter account? His handle is shown as "IsPhegleyUpYet" and he's bashing Tyler Flowers on there. I really hope this isn't his Twitter account, because ripping on another player in your organization and potential future teammate is incredibly stupid. I get that he feels he deserves to be called up, but b****ing and moaning about it on the internet is definitely not the right approach.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2013 -> 10:30 AM) How long until he needs to be put on the 40 man? He's already on the 40 man, added this past-offseason.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 14, 2013 -> 01:56 PM) Sony is subject to the license of the developers. This is how it has always been. So Sony is being honest, you are just trying to unfairly impute the decision of the licensor on the licensee. I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say here, but 3rd party publishers have to pay licensing fees to the console manufacturers to sell games on their systems. Sony & Microsoft don't have to issue these licenses to developers and therefore can set up whatever used game policies they like.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 12, 2013 -> 07:58 PM) I think Ubisoft is the only third party really going in on the Wii U. Between Zombie U, the Assassin's Creed games always coming to Wii U and a few others they've supported it pretty well. They just announced to investors that they're cutting support. So the mutliplatform games in development will still come, but after that probably not much.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 12, 2013 -> 12:34 PM) I don't care if Nick Parent gets drafted in the 38th round. It costs us no money and we have to fill out those rookie rosters anyway. One of the positives of having Oney around way back when was they could move him up and down when there were injuries and/or sit him on the bench at whatever level needed an extra body without caring, since he wasn't a real prospect. So imagine that, but the kid isn't a dickhead. Why does this player need to be related to someone in the front office or coaching staff?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 12, 2013 -> 12:38 PM) I'm sure it will be rookie ball. That's what I would have guessed, although he'll probably get called up to Kannapolis at some point. When does rookie ball start?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 12, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) If you get anyone to take him on, you are pretty much giving him away at this point. I don't think it's likely, but a team with a bit of money who needs someone at 1B or DH might consider it. About the only team I can think of at this point is the Yankees, and I have strong doubts about that. I assume by "giving him away" you mean the Sox eating most of his salary and getting nothing back in return. That's about the best case scenario for us and I still doubt a contender would be interested in him. Dunn's just way too streaky and when he's off he's epically bad. I can't think of a team with a hole at DH who has enough other offensive problems to take gamble on him.

Glad to see he signed quickly. Where does he start off at? Kannapolis or Great Falls?

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 06:30 PM) Nintendo may lose this gen, but can still recover. The decision to go with current gen graphics 7 years after the fact is very odd. I just don't get it. Nintendo will get no 3rd party support once developers start tapping into the true power of the other next gen systems. If Nintendo was releasing a major 1st party game every month it probably wouldn't matter, but that's never going to be the case. Without big developers like EA, Activision, & Ubisoft there will major droughts throughout the year and in key genres. For f***'s sake, EA isn't even putting a Madden on the system this year. Also, they initially sold the Wii U as a console for the hardcore gamer, but so far it seems like they're still targeting the casual gamer with Nintendo Land, Wii Fit/Party, & two safe Mario games. That's what pisses me off. I want to see a next gen experience, not another Wii Party in HD. Nintendo can make some of the best pure gaming experiences, which should only be more immersive with HD graphics, but they're over-saturating themselves with this casual garbage.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 04:25 PM) Even though it's coming from Buddy Bell, I don't think that's the right approach. A guy like Keenyn Walker is the perfect example. His average dipped from .280 at Kanny to .240 in WS after the promotion last year, and he only played 37 games at WS to finish off the season. He should absolutely be starting the year at WS and continue to work on his swing, and prove he can handle Advance A hitting before promotion. As a result, he's barely hitting above .200 this year, and as it looks now, it's a long shot for him to make it to the majors. While I agree with your overall point, Walker is actually having an awesome June. Whether or not he keeps it up remains to be seen, but it's way too early to write to him off.