Chicago White Sox

Of the 24 guys listed above, here are the main ones with real trade value: Hagen Smtih, LHP David Sandlin, RHP Drew Thorpe, RHP William Bergolla, IF Mason Adams, RHP Shane Smith, RHP Wikelman Gonzalez, RHP I fully expect one or two of these guys being dealt at the deadline.

Alright, the post above was just aligning on who the bubble guys might be. The question is whether losing 10 of them would be an actual problem. From my perspective, there are a handful of easy cuts. For the RHPs, Cannon & Davitt could go right now and I wouldn’t care now that Adams & Shane are back as AAA depth. Tyler Davis was solid at times, but is pretty expendable IMO. Iriarte has pitched well and was a former big name, but he’s not K’ing a ton of guys in AAA and only has one option left. I’d take my chances he does not get selected in the Rule 5. That’s four cuts right there. On the LHP front, Gilbert was ok last year, but is old and lacks stuff. Schweitzer has jumped him on the depth chart and a healthy Ky Bush seals his fate. Rock is expendable as well, so that’s two more cuts and six total. It’s the positional side that is challenging. You got to have at least one minor league catcher, infielder, and outfielder on your 40 man. So while neither Perez or Rikuu are key prospects to me, someone has to serve that OF role. I also like all three of the infielders, so at max there is only one easy cut here. After those seven, you start tapping into guys with value. And it’s going to get worse when Bonemer, Roch, & others start pushing their way into the roster mix. The crunch is definitely real and it feels like we will need to trade a few of the guys within the aforementioned group of 24 this deadline to ease the pressures.

So thinking through this roster crunch and what it means for the upcoming trade deadline. The Sox currently have 38 people on their active 40 man roster and another eight guys on the 60 day IL. There are also several players who will need to be placed on the 40 man roster this coming offseason or be subject to the Rule 5 draft. So we’re currently at 46 guys plus possibly a few more to come. For this exercise, I will assume that we add a catcher, a SP, and a RP at the trade deadline. Let’s assume Romo & Schweitzer are sent down and Fedde is moved out of the rotation and into the bullpen forcing us to trade/DFA Richards. That’s three guys in and one guy out, which maxes out the 40 man roster without an offsetting move being needed. Let’s also assume Pereira ultimately replaces Perez and that Hays is traded. That puts the roster at 47 guys total. Let’s also note that Grichuk, Newcomb, & Fedde are free agents after the year. For this exercise, let’s assume that the catcher & RP we add are rentals but the SP is controllable. Teel replaces the catcher on the 26 man roster. We don’t have an obvious RH outfielder to replace Randall, so assume that’s a FA. I’d also just assume we add two FA arms and leverage McDougal to fill the other spot. That is net attrition of two spots and would bring the roster down to 45. That is before you have to make calls on adding Mason Adams, Bergolla, Iriarte, & Pallette. Hagen Smith also needs to factor into the mix here. Add these five and you’re now up to 50 guys into the equation for 40 roster spots. Ignoring the guys on the 26 man roster, you need to trade, release, or leave unprotected 10 of the following 24 dudes: Infielders (3): Bergolla, Baldwin, Murray Outfielders (2): Nishida, Perez Catchers (1): Romo RH Pitchers (13): Sandlin, Thorpe, Adams, S. Smith, Vasil, Gonzalez, Berrora, Leasure, Davis, Pallette, Iriarte, Cannon, Davitt LH Pitchers (5): H. Smith, Schweizter, Bush, Rock, Gilbert

I’d keep Pereira and trade Hays.

It’s amazing how many times we’ve been through this and how many times you pound your fists and refuse to listen. We lacked critical player development infrastructure when Hahn was GM both in terms equipment & technology and data & analytics. The moment Getz became GM he invested and fixed those areas. Not very hard to connect the dots here and realize that KW & Hahn were a major hindrance to be successful as the PD Director under that regime.

That trade sucked…no doubt it

I don’t see Sandlin going for a rental SP of that caliber and definitely not with two other decent prospects.

If you think he can be a mid rotation guy, you don’t trade him for two months of an ok rental catcher. If his ceiling is just a back of the rotation type, then the calculus changes. To me, it just comes down to his newfound velocity and how that changes things for him.

Just Baseball threw out Robbie Ray for Sandlin, Lodise, & Mogollon.

I could see Mason getting traded, but moreso for a SP with control.

Offensively Stephenson makes a lot of sense since he doesn’t have huge splits either way and can pair with what we have currently or Teel if he comes back.

I would really hate trading a velocity-bumped Mason Adams for a rental catcher

What would be an expensive price to pay? Quero has been terrible this year and hasn’t shown any signs of breaking out of his funk. Seems like that will need to be an offseason project.

Fixing Carlson’s swing is a massive question mark. Bonemer is going to be a stud hitter in the majors. Carlson may have a higher theoretical ceiling simply due to how good his defense, but the odds of him achieving it are significantly less than Caleb doing so. I also don’t think “infield defense” is a massive need when you have Roch at SS, Colson at 3B, Chase at 2B, & Vargas at 1B. That’s a damn good defensive infield.

Rosenthal reporting we are aggressively pursuing a catcher…if so, I hope that happens sooner rather than later. Not sure a Jonah Heim type needs to wait until the deadline to land.

Ok, maybe don’t trade him then. I don’t always love his view on pitchers, but Law really knows his stuff on the positional side of things.

We should also have a financial edge that other clubs won’t have because Jerry went so cheap into the season with his payroll. If the Chapman rumors were true, that will give us a bit of an advantage.

I don’t see why we couldn’t. The AL is a total mess…Sox are legitimately one of the best teams even with a clear need in the rotation. Address that issue and add a catcher that’s better than Romo / Quero and this team is as good as any. That being said, it’s still too early to push all your chips in. Mason Miller is a “finishing” move and we aren’t there yet. We should also not be desperate enough to cash in what could be a future star in Bonemer who could help us 6+ to maximize our chances for one or two. There is a balance that be had though and zero excuse for Getz not to be passively aggressive.

We’re 11 days away from the deadline. We could start seeing some smaller moves any day now. Right now, here is who I see as possible sellers: Toronto (+6.5) Sacramento (+9.5) Kansas City (+10) LA Angels (+12) Cincinnati (+5.5) NY Mets (+10.5) San Francisco (+11) Colorado (+13) That’s eight likely sellers. There’s another 10 teams within 5 games of a Wild Card spot, so maybe one or two other teams fall off and decide to sell. Either way, it’s going to be a seller’s market…Getz will navigate it carefully.

Let’s get this thread back on track. The Sox can’t roster all three of Grichuk, Hays, & Pereira. Everson is the only one controllable beyond this year and who can play CF…ideally you keep him so you don’t have to find someone to fill this role next year. That means you got to move one of Hays or Grichuk and it would be hard to move the latter after what he’s done. Both Austin & Pereira are at AAA in rehab stints. I think there is a real possibility that we call up Hays before the Astros series and try to showcase him a bit. We aren’t going to get a ton, but RH bats are in demand right now and he was a $6M signing this past offseason with a strong track against LHP. Maybe he nets you something that can help offset the cost of a rental catcher. Meanwhile, Everson can extend his rehab assignment through the trade deadline. I think they keep him down and use this as an opportunity to get him regular playing time while they work through the major league roster crunch. He comes up post deadline and returns to his previous role.

Exactly.

We have zero payroll commitments and a team of cost controllable player. Stop with this insanity. And we have five more years of control of Peters…there is zero reason to worry about extending him.

He thinks we should consider trading Murakami for pitching

This is an absolutely garbage post and you should be ashamed for even typing it.

Bonemer is going to be a star…do not fucking trade him for anything.