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Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Why does Oakland want him? -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
So level setting on what someone like Sean Manaea might cost. Sonny Gray with two years of team control just went for a late 2021 1st round pick. Chris Bassitt with only one year of control went for a 2020 overslot 2nd round pick and an older, late bloomer arm. What’s fascinating is I’d probably argue that the A’s got the superior package, although Petty offers far more upside than Ginn. Regardless, neither headliner was a top 100 type yet, but has the ceiling to become one with time. The challenge is the Sox don’t have a ton of guys with that type of pedigree. Jared Kelly would be the closest as his $3M bonus was actually larger than both Ginn & Petty’s and he was a higher regarded prospect by most publications heading into each of their respective drafts. The problem for him was a disastrous 2021 season that was both short on health and results. Could he headline a trade for Manaea? Maybe if the A’s were high on him pre-draft, but you’d potentially be selling him for $0.50 on the dollar. Besides Kelly, maybe you could make a argument for Matthew Thompson plus a decent secondary piece, but he like Kelly posted poor results in 2021 and his value has taken a hit, even if his athleticism & projectability remain there. I think Vera could easily headline a Manaea trade, but the Sox aren’t moving him now when he a chance to be a top 50 prospect in a year or two. Dalquist & Burke, our next two best pitching prospects, aren’t going to be enough to headline this type of trade. Honestly, that leaves positional guys and out of all of them I really think Burger makes the most sense. The A’s are likely to lose both Olson & Chapman in the near future and will need to help to replace the power they provide. Zack Gelof will certainly be in the mix, but having another guy that can fill in at 3B, 1B, & DH makes a ton of sense. To me, Sheets flashed enough last season to be worth more than one year of Manaea, especially with the NL getting the DH now. And Colas is in a similar boat to Vera where it’s difficult to move him now when his value is likely to jump after a year statewide. Burger plus an arm like Jason Bilous seems like a reasonable package for both sides. -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Carlos Martinez to the Giants on a minor league deal worth $2.5M plus incentives. I’d have to imagine Velasquez’s deal would be for a smaller guaranteed amount. -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Lol…so damn true. -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Daily reminder that Hahn’s first call post lockout ending warranted an obnoxious, baiting smirk. And I’m very confident it wasn’t for Kelly or Harrison. Panic if you must, but dealing with Boras takes time. -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What in the fuck are the Twins doing? -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yeah, why try to get better after a first round humiliation. Thanks for expert analysis Steve! -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I have no problem with someone using baseballtradevalues as a reference point, the issue is you using it as the end all because they’re “independent”. Their prospect valuations are bad and they routinely have issues similar to the Moncada one, which you fought tirelessly against for a period of time. But hey, keep taking cheap shots because you don’t like people critiquing a website you like. -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Do you have an equity stake in the site? Don’t know why you take rips against it personally. -
He doesn’t work for the company anymore FYI
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Wouldn’t it be $19M?
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I’m hoping at least
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Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Baseball Trade Values isn’t credible. -
I’m not sure how this prevents us from adding another starter. This is probably a $2M signing that sends Burr to AAA to start the year.
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Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If the Dodgers get Cruz & Freeman then the game is truly broken -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Isn’t Peguero going to the Twins? FWIW, I would trade Kelley in heartbeat for Gray. -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Gray was never a true rental though…would have loved to acquire him for Kath+ -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Isn’t just one player? -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Either La Russa has gone blind or he’s helping Hahn negotiate via the media. -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Way too much. -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Lol…I can’t stand Josh Nelson. -
White Sox Sign RP Joe Kelly (2yrs with a club option; $17m)
Chicago White Sox replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Who is in your bullpen then? -
Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin
Chicago White Sox replied to Chisoxfn's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think he’d be tough to acquire. Sonny Gray is still a name I could see happening. The Sox have liked him for a while now and the Reds appear to be open to moving him. Whether we can match up remains to be seen.
