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Oh boy, how do you not go for it here.
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Oh fuck, Mooney is hurt!?
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At least the Rams are winning...lol
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Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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Is there even a single Not Cishek tweet in this thread? -
I could be wrong, but I believe Wentz is basically untradable cap wise for the Eagles next year.
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Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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Because Soxtalk said so after he got injured in game 3 -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What mention from James? New or older? But yeah, it could definitely add up...I just struggle to find a team with a controllable pitcher that would be interested in Madrigal. I don’t see the Brewers moving Woodruff but even they did they’d have no interest in Nick. The Mariners already have Long & Moore. The Pirates have Nick Gonzales coming. The Reds are stuck with Moustakas for the near term and could move Senzel there if the spot opened up. Unless Kroll thinks he can somehow solve their SS hole, I just don’t see a potential landing spot for him. -
Colome has stones no doubt and a nasty fucking cutter, but with the game on the line give me the guy who strikes out people at an elite rate vs. the guy who relies on balls in play.
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Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The Sox are rumored to have offered Dunning & Madrigal for Clevinger at last year’s deadline. If true, I think it’s fair to wonder if those are the top prospects they deem expendable and are looking to convert them into win now pieces. Obviously Dunning has already been moved for a starter, but could Madrigal be the next guy to go? I actually like Nick quite a bit and think he gets way too much hate in regards to his fielding & base running, but he’s also a 2B with a limited ceiling if he can’t develop any power (still TBD, but not promising at the moment). And the reality is there are several 2B in free agency that could be had for a very reasonable price that would likely provide ~2 wins next year, some that are left-handed and who would provide better balance to the lineup (Wong, La Stella, etc). I’m not suggesting we trade Madrigal for the sake of it, but there is an incredibly strong argument to move him now if teams view him as a legit top 40/50 prospect and he can be the centerpiece for a controllable starter. That’s probably unrealistic, as rebuilding teams are unlikely to want a low ceiling 2B as the main piece in a trade, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if the Sox were exploring it. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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Yet last year during an actual pandemic fueled season, the Rangers wanted significantly more for Lynn. TOR starters are never cheap at the trade deadline. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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Dude, we don’t have “a lot of depth” to pull off a trade like that and those teams would be looking for potential impact talent anyways. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I 100% agree with that. Unfortunately though we are limited by how much Jerry is willing to spend, so if you’re Hahn / KW you may have to decide how much of the future you are willing to sacrifice for your shot right now. I’m not saying trading long-term assets for Gray is the right or wrong call, but there is an argument for building the strongest roster possible (within reason) for the next three years while you have a great core in place and not banking on someone like Cease taking a big step forward. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather shoot for sustainable success and not risk shortening our window by moving young controllable pieces, but there is some logic to taking your shot when the opportunity presents itself. Ultimately, these guys need to decide if they want to take on additional risk now or in the back-half of their competitive window since Jerry won’t spend enough to make the decision moot. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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I’m not defending the logic, but all these guys are likely to be materially better than Quintana next year & beyond. As for Lynn, who cares if he’s fat when he’s a damn good pitcher who’s proven he can pitch at that weight? -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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I’d rather have Musgrove assuming he comes way cheaper. I think the Reds will want major league ready pieces for Gray. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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What about Cease? Seems like a guy the Reds would be all over. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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The one trade I could see happening is Gray for Cease + Heuer. The Sox land a legit #2 or #3 starter for the next three years ($10.7M per) that gives them a big four that would rival anyone in the AL. The Reds gets an immediate replacement for Gray with five years of control & significant upside plus a young, high potential reliever with options all while saving nearly $9M in 2021. The Sox adding Hendriks would make Heuer much more expendable, although we’d still need another depth starter. And Cease seems like a guy the Reds would absolutely love, as he’s got all the tools needed to be a legit TOR starter, but needs to make some grip / mechanical adjustments to reduce the cut on his 4 seamer and improve his overall command of the pitch. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Possibly...I’m not entirely convinced, but either way we have Steve Stone saying a trade may be likely. That alone should be considered smoke. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
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Obviously the foodies could be jumping in off raBBit’s or Stone’s comments, but it’s interesting nonetheless and worth discussing. Therefore, how would you feel about trading for one of these guys rather than signing a #4 type starter in free agency? What do you think the cost would be to acquire one of them? -
There is suddenly some real smoke that the Sox may be exploring trades for controllable starting pitchers. First, we had this series of tweets from our raBBit: Next, fathom posted this little nugget that he heard from a Steve Stone interview yesterday: Now, the foodies have jumped on the bandwagon with these tweets:
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MLB 2020-21 off season catch all
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Please convince Friedman to make you GM so we can make this trade. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
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That’s assuming everyone is healthy which is probably not realistic coming off last season and not what we should be planning for IMO. -
He’d already be on the Sox if that were the case.
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Where has this been said? I probably missed it.
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Other than budgets, roster spots, and the development of our young arms.
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The problem is we can’t afford to trade these guys and manage to have enough depth now that Dunning is gone. Right now we still need to add a starter, so including Cease or Kopech in a package for one has us still short one. Plus we’d be selling low on both guys. I just can’t see it in all honesty...at least after the Lynn trade.
