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QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Nov 28, 2013 -> 12:34 PM) Happy Thanksgivukkah! I'm making some potato pancakes as well.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 28, 2013 -> 10:38 AM) This. I think people are getting too wrapped up in Parker being from Chicago. Don't get me wrong. The kid is really good. But Wiggins easily has the most upside with very little downside. I might even take Exum and Randle before Parker. You can't teach elite athleticism. I don't expect them to be able to get Wiggins or Randle. I think Exum has the chance to be the biggest star from the draft. But I think it's possible they get the #4 pick and having Parker with whatever version of Rose exists writes itself for marketing.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Nov 28, 2013 -> 09:43 AM) Since the Bulls played Detroit last night, I had a thought: are they dumb enough to give us Monroe for Deng? My initial reaction is f*** no, but it does make some sense. Their frontcourt doesn't work on either end of the floor. Smith at SF is brutal. They're not moving him or Drummond, and Monroe might be gone since he's talking about a max deal. Deng would be a huge upgrade at SF and let them play Smith inside where he belongs. I'm sure we'd all much rather pay Monroe 15 mil a year than 12 or so for Deng. Plus it would give them the flexibility to dump Taj I still don't know if it could happen because of the talent gap, but it makes too much sense. I'd even throw in a protected first I think. Where are you playing Nikola at? What about Booz or Taj for the rest of the year?

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 28, 2013 -> 12:08 AM) Would you guys do Waiters, Earl Clark, and Tyler Zeller for Deng? It's over 9M so it would work. Clark's contract next year is non guaranteed next year, then you have a potential starting 2 guard and a backup C for the next 4 years. They tossing in a pick? Otherwise, no.

Bulls are out of their damn mind if they don't do everything possible to try and get Jabari.

I don't understand these people saying to hang onto Deng.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 10:02 AM) The Bulls are deeply entrenched in NBA hell. There's just no way out of it right now. Which is exactly why they need to blow it up. Yet you still hear people go "I dunno, they should hold it together one more year."

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 07:52 AM) I might think about that. You're looking at a lineup with: (Point Guard)-Lamb-Butler-Gibson-Adams or (Point Guard)-Butler-Snell-Gibson-Adams or perhaps Mirotic in for Gibson. That would leave us with a very young, very athletic core and I'd be pretty excited for next season with Mirotic and a rookie(s) Other deals kicked around over there: Hinrich for Shved Deng for Marion + filler and Mavs 1st this year (if it's in the top 20) You'd be going into the draft with... PG: Rose, Teague SG: Shved, Lamb SF: Butler, Snell PF: Nikola, Taj, Murphy C : Adams/Perkins And you have the Bulls pick (which would be damn high at that point), possibly the Cats pick, the Mavs, and the Thunders pick. Everything goes right and Thibs gets that young, athletic roster. And Zoom, hasn't Lamb been doing well this year (in what is essentially his first year in the NBA)?

Non-Bulls fans at RealGM suggesting this: Joakim Noah and Mike Dunleavy for Jeremy Lamb, Steven Adams, a 1st and Perkins. I have no idea whether I'd take it or not. The only thing making me not think "Done" is my love of Jo.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 11:46 PM) I don't love rooting for losses in a lottery system. With that said, trade Deng and Noah if you can, let the kids play, and root for them to win -- they'll never win enough for you to feel bad about rooting for it. Tank Commander Marquis at your service.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) The Bulls and Sox money are separate and distinct quantities with distinct and different ownership groups. ^ Biggest myth about JR is that he uses the Bulls to fund the Sox.

How the f*** did Kobe pull that s*** off?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 11:03 AM) I'm so surprised that listening to Reggie Rose over the medical professionals didn't work out for Derrick. I'm sure it will happen, but I don't want to hear Reggie Rose say a damn thing this year. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 11:03 AM) Thibs has his faults. But the guy changed the game defensively dating back to '08. Give him longer, better athletes (no boozer) and no telling what he could do. I'm hoping that accomplish that in this draft. Looks like the Bobcats might actually finish outside the Top 10 picks, so count that + pick you should get for Deng and you'll have 3 first rounders. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 11:06 AM) Give him a team that's 8-10 deep like the Nuggets were last year and see how far he can go. Hopefully they get that in this draft + trades + Nikola. Next year could theoretically have 4 rookies, lesser Rose, and Noah. It'll be a struggle. My ideal scenario: Trade Boozer and the Bobcats pick restrictions to the Bobcats for Gordon and their pick this year. Deng for Ariza and Wizards pick. Make it a three team deal if you need filler. Trade Kirk, Dunleavy and James for second rounders. Going into offseason: PG: Rose (+), Teague SG: Butler, Snell SF : PF : Taj, Nikola C : Noah Using the three firsts that you should have (Bulls, Bobcats, and Deng pick) hope that the Bulls are bad enough to get Jabari before Utah (another Chicago miracle lottery win?), Cauley-Stein/McCary, and Gary Harris. If Jabari is gone, bring in Exum and move Jimmy to SF. Use the 2nd rounders + Deng 1st to move up to ensure Harris or Cauley-Stein. Sign Kirk in the offseason and BG if he shows anything when he is here. All falls perfectly into place and... PG: Rose (+), Hinrich, Teague SG: Butler, Harris, Gordon SF: Jabari, Snell PF: Nikola, Taj, Murphy C : Noah, Cauley-Stein (Unreasonable hope for a young, athletic and talented roster like this is the only thing keeping me from drinking right now. f*** Reggie Rose.)

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 10:57 AM) Or just get rid of Thibs. His irresponsible minutes have led to the ruin of Noah and Deng anyway as well. Can't blame him for broken Rose, though. I'm lashing out. Ignore me. Sadly, it's not without a valid point. It's not bad enough to warrant his removal, but Thibs needs to learn 2 things: 1) Not to get so attached to players. His running players like Deng and Noah into the ground leads to them being injured 2) Use the roster he is given. This only adds to the stress on players like Deng and Noah when he refuses to play their backups.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 10:39 AM) lol. warriors would never do that. Does suck they extended bogut, though. Noah for Barnes would at least get their attention. I said "shoulda" because the Bulls turned it down when Barnes was drafted. Because competing last year was #1 priority. QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 10:45 AM) If the Bulls are smart and tank this could be their San Antonio Spurs 1996-1997 season that led to them getting Duncan and being able to pair Robinson and Duncan for their frontline. But sadly GarPax will probably keep the status quo and the Bulls will limp into the playoffs setting the franchise back. QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 10:51 AM) Preach. I fear it's less GarPax and more Thibs. Only way to tank is to force Thibs to play Teague and Snell by trading Kirk, Dunleavy, Deng, and Booz.

Shoulda traded Deng for Barnes. Tank for Jabari.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 07:57 AM) No one's taking that Asik $15 million dollar hit for 2014/2015 without offloading their own stinky turd. Remember, that's why we let Omer go - $5/$5/$15. I thought it only applied to the Bulls if they had signed him themselves? Otherwise it's 8/8/8, right?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 05:37 PM) I hope there is another Starfox in the works. I want to dogfight some anthropomorphic animal pilots again I've been waiting for a Starfox game since the Gamecube. That would make me buy a Nintendo system.

It's November, dear lord. Wait until the free agency settles in a bit. Santiago will have more value after a couple more Vargas deals.

I actually believe you could move Boozer and Hinrich for Asik and Lin. Both of the later are disgruntled and Howard likes Booz, and Booz has played well this year. Then flip Asik and Lin for more pieces if you can.

Great start here.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 08:18 PM) Where did Jo disappear to Traded, but I could see him sticking around. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 09:11 PM) Who is picking up Boozer's contract? The Bulls can't amnesthetize him until next summer and any team that trades for him can't use the amnesty on him next summer. Kirk and Booz to Houston for Asik and Lin. Asik is disgruntled, Boozer is playing well this year, Howard likes Booz. Kirk will let Harden do his thing. Flip Lin and Asik later. This is all dependent on how long Rose is out and what they do without him. If it looks like he'll come back AND they're playing well, then I can see them keeping the team together. If not, everyone but Butler and Jo is definitely gone, and Jo could easily be gone.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 05:17 PM) They are the Bulls, their coach is Tom Thibodeau, and the East is complete garbage. They're still winning 40-some odd games regardless. This. If you run a lineup of... Teague Snell Butler PF from trade (Taj and Booz gone) Nazr or player from trade. You aren't gonna win a damn game.

I have no idea if they should punt the season for Jabari or not.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 12:33 PM) Having it buckle and feel painful to put weight on right after injury is common. There are times when the person can walk on it and maybe even lightly run, but usually the swelling at the least will make this unbearable. Painful pop/rupture, maybe a few seconds of feeling non-horrible, then an extremely sore knee that will buckle under pressure is to be expected for several weeks It's what my knee did in baseball and it was just hyperextended. I jumped and turned to catch a ball in CF, felt my right knee slip right in and out of place and heard the nastiest pop. I tried to get up but really couldn't, though I eventually was able to walk/shuffle for a small distance before I had to remove pressure from it all together. Was able to walk off...it can be possible. Just gotta hope.