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QUOTE (kev211 @ Sep 21, 2015 -> 10:52 PM) Hahaha I'm dying laughing. Think of all the sox, bears, and Illini fans here. Suck has an inconsistent meaning. With the Colts and KY, it's all or nothing.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) 2009 Bears: Cutler was 7-9. He had some bad games but his best receiver was Devin Hester. Forte rushed for 2010 Bears: Cutler was 10-5 and won a post-season game to give him 11 wins. Bears made it to NFC championship where they lost to Packers (with Jay out). Knox was the #1 ( 2011 Bears: Cutler was 7-3, but got injured in a route of the Chargers (5th straight win and during that stretch they averaged 32.2 ppg). Bears looked like an elite team until they were Caleb Hanied out of the playoffs. 2012 Bears: Cutler was 10-5 as the starter. Marshall had a beast of a season, although he really had on other receiving weapons. No other receivers with even 500 yards. 2013 Bears: Cutler had statistically his best season (Marshall was a beast again and Alshon emerged with Forte playing well). Defense was horrendous and Jay is 5-6. McCown goes 3-2. 2014 Bears: Bears are just an outright disaster. Cutler goes 5-10 and defense was beyond pathetic. The only time we had remotely decent defenses, the Bears were playoff teams (which is what you'd expect with a solid QB). The years where we had awful defenses, the types of D's that only a top 3 QB would get us their, well, we didn't make the playoffs and were bad, but not 2 win bad, why, because Jay is good enough to win a few games on his own, but he isn't good enough to go Aaron Rodgers and just win the whole thing. Bottom line, lets fix this football team. I agree if we can get a top flight Andrew Luck type prospect, you get him, but in the meantime, lets find lots of good football players, cause Jay with good players around him (a good defense and special teams, solid offensive weapons), is a QB that can win. Unfortunately you have to be very bad in the NFL at a time when there is a good draft of QBs. Then you need to surround them with quality coaching.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) Yankees announcers seem to have a bigger hard on for Trayce Thompson than Hawk does I no longer listen to the Sox broadcast. I like getting educated about the Sox from opposing broadcasts. Hawk likes to ramble.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 21, 2015 -> 04:37 AM) yeah right... name a org that org??? again, what ever we, the fans opinions are, the sox FO will do what they want. however, you do not put your valuable asset in a position to get injured. no one can predict the unlucky events of injuries. as example i am going to use Troy - ss injury. buy you try to limit the others with playing the odds. either way, i like to see your opinion on my question i am done on this subject. Trying to plan against injury doesn't make sense and does not always work. Sale missed the beginning of the season because he was moving. Should they put him in bubble wrap in October and break him out in February. It's foolish thinking. They try this in the NFL. Your logic can't be any more flawed. Winning organizations in all professional sports do not walk on glass.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 08:44 AM) I completely disagree with you. It's so hard to find a good leadoff hitter and average to above average defensive CF. This year not so great defensively, but last year he was pretty damn good. According to Baseball Reference, in his 2 years with the Sox, he has a combined 9.3 WAR. 5.6 last year and 3.7 this year. He's 26, and with so few offensive building blocks, you don't trade that away..... Hard to believe they filled two holes with one player. How far they have come from Brian Anderson and Jaun Pierre. Trading players because they are decent for a hit and miss prospect or two to an organization that has far more failures than successes with position players exceed the realm of baseball stupidity. Sox fans forget this is not an organization like the Cardinals.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 08:32 AM) Dude, prospects flop all the time. You trade Eaton for two of them you'll be lucky to even get one that turns out as good as him in the long-run. Sure, there's a small chance you end up with a better player or both prospects work out, but the odds are incredibly low. If you're going to take that gamble, you might as well trade the rest of your assets (Sale, Quintana, & Abreu) and straight-up rebuild, because you're pushing your timeline back another year or two. As disappointing as this season has been, we still have a playoff caliber pitching staff in place. Putting together a legit offense will be challenge, but one that's not necessarily impossible if they're willing to commit some resources to fixing it (cash & minor league pitching). Again, if ownership & the front office aren't willing to do that, then blow this f***ing thing up, as you definitely don't want to get stuck in the middle. Especially in this organization. They hit the mark on pitching but that's it. At some point you can't keep trading those who are decent or good hoping for younger decent and good. There's plenty of organizations do that and have just as many years without a postseason.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 06:03 PM) Some teams are strong at developing pitching, while others developing hitting. Sox and Cubs are basically total opposites, with both teams having to pay a ton of money to try and upgrade the area they're weak at developing. I tend to think people underestimate just how good the 3-headed lefty monster of Sale/Q/Rodon could be. Only those who think of trading them. Smarj IMO does not have any impressive stats yet he would be expensive for the production you would get out of him. The Cubs didn't feel that way either.

Why are people shocked they are not seeing the invincible Sale like in June? He's not going to do that every outing. He's getting Q type run support.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 01:30 PM) So Montas has one bad inning and now you want to give up on him as a starter? It's been clear that he's a big project and an unfinished product for a while now. Still too early to make that call. This board can be so reactionary at times. Maybe this is a knee jerk reaction because the kids can't rise above the veterans that suck.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 09:17 PM) I will be upset if Sale is moved, but I'd understand why they'd trade him if it helped better the franchise as a whole. It's all spectulation at this point though. I personally don't think he'll be traded until at least 2017 at the earliest. Maybe later than that. I would be just as upset if Q is traded.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 09:14 PM) Yep, and I believe Hahn will listen on Sale and make a team offer a package that's simply too good to refuse. That's probably been done many times.

QUOTE (jamesdiego @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 08:57 PM) Well, Japanese people are so polite and nice. Maybe Iguchi just didn't want to make Brian feel so bad because Gooch had such a bigger schlong than him. He probably already pitted Brian enough with his batting average. I hope the Sox aren't as bad next year. Game day threads are starting to get strange.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 04:44 PM) Have no idea what they'll be able to do. Free agent list isn't impressive in the areas they need. They'll probably have less money to work with given season tickets holders, many, won't be back. Still far to many black holes in the lineup. Starting pitching may be an issue as well if they trade Q. Yet they'll try to sell the fans on the notion of "contending" next year. Maybe the best thing they can do, maybe the only thing is to bring in an experienced manager who has won in the past and let him bring in his own coaching staff. Maybe they can get more out of what the Sox already have. That and removing Kenny completely from interfering. Mark Trading Q and signing Smarj = 4 steps back. I don't trust this organization with prospects unless they are ready to play. I still don't trust them with that. Maybe fans would have someone else to hate other than Javi. I'd rather build around Sale, Q, Rodon. Danks will be coming off the books eventually.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 21, 2015 -> 09:58 PM) I know the Colts are sucking right now but you have a top-5 QB and you'll rebound. I don't think people who have him on their fantasy team wold agree. They have a bottom 5 coaching staff and a bad GM.

How do you handle it? Sox - what more can you say? Colts - remind too much of the White Sox NBA - don't watch it NCAA - family is either Louisville or KY fans. I have an occasional interest in the Final Four but it's win it all or bust. NHL - Blackhawks. The season will be interesting. I can't watch them since I'm in AZ. I love baseball over them all. I guess my excitement could come from the Fall league or watching kids play.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 21, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) None of them. But it's funny how everyone now wants to stay away from NL players because of two busts. Add Jake Peavy, Smarj to the list. It's a trend. Younger players it's different. Watch both leagues and you may come to the conclusion it's apples and oranges. Or you could believe like the Sox organization and throw money and youth away on veteran NL players that fail on this team. You don't need a stat book to discover that reality.

There's nothing in his previous stats that say "great pitcher". I can't except the hype.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 05:37 PM) You're talking about the same Sox management who failed to trade Samardzija. It's probably the same organization that found out nobody wanted him.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) last season, the team and sale had a real scare, especially but over pitching in a game. this season or should i say in spring training, as you said, he got hurt. bottom line why increase the odds of in injury. if a person, with all the necessary chances of getting injured, someone does, then that is the way it is. but at the same time don't help it by having key players play for what???? Your logic can't be any more flawed. Winning organizations in all professional sports do not walk on glass.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 19, 2015 -> 03:46 PM) only if the sox shut down sale, Q, Jose A and maybe eaton. an arm injury to a pitcher or a blown knee to a any of the other i mention, kiss 2016 away. Trying to plan against injury doesn't make sense and does not always work. Sale missed the beginning of the season because he was moving. Should they put him in bubble wrap in October and break him out in February. It's foolish thinking. They try this in the NFL.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2015 -> 11:35 PM) I think he's earned a spot on the big league club next year. Get rid of Melky and put Dayan back in left. Though that doesn't help our defense any. ... If we could dump LaRoche, make him DH and bat him ahead of Abreu. He put up good numbers before in the minors. There use to be a slogan - free Viciedo. Maybe he can only hit minor league pitching. Maybe they should have offered Beckham a minor league contract and work on his hitting. In the farm system a quality hitting coach probably doesn't exist.

They have bad luck with NL players. Best solution - stop. The DH is also a money pit.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 19, 2015 -> 09:36 PM) He's so bad that you don't even know his name! It's the Harry Carey syndrome.

Rodon is getting more impressive for a rookie. I think it's time for him to complete a game.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 19, 2015 -> 09:31 PM) Wow idiot base runner. Lucky that double wasn't an out.