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QUOTE (Vance Law @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 06:09 PM) Manager barely matters unless it is someone as insane and toxic as Ozzie. Ned Yost was the biggest dumb piece of s*** manager in baseball, until their young players finally started playing well. Now he's a genius. And if you want to argue "hey, I never said Ned Yost is a genius," then look at the Royals record and see how much the manager matters if you have a lineup full of valuable players. The amount of anger and vitriol heaped on Robin is at about a 10 when it should be more like a 1.5. That should be directed at KW. When Ozzie left there really wasn't a formal hiring process. No interviews, just persuading an former player with no experience to manage a team.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 05:35 PM) Thome for Manager 2017 S.O.S. Same old s***.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 02:03 PM) Lots of people say this. Never ends up being true. I think Robin should go. But he won't. Fans will show up less often probably too, but no one is just turning it off entirely because they kept the manager. The organization tries the reverse thinking former player A in a coaching spot will bring fans. If they keep this up it might achieve the result above.

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 03:35 PM) Still can't believe you are anything but a troll. Far from it. He's one of the most civil people on this forum despite the abuse he gets.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 12:35 PM) And you guys thought their wouldn't be changes. A new scoreboard AND a new bench coach? It is practically Christmas. Post of the week.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) but it won't be the sox. they already completed the obvious tanking

QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 08:49 AM) Fewer teams make the playoffs in MLB than the other sports. The Sox have sucked but as far as comparing across other sports... *shrug* In the NFL and NBA, being really bad for two years can pay off if the timing is right.

No we can see how bad they really are.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) Avi should spend all next year in the minors completely renovating his swing Probably not gonna happen in this farm system.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 02:46 PM) I'm just saying: why not invest the $40 million to build the best minor league infrastructure in baseball instead of a wild-ass gamble on contending for a wild card? How many scouts could you hire with that? Every one of them could have a PhD in statistics! I think the problem is there is no accountability in the farm system. Players still can't run bases. Situational hitting? What's that? Fundamentals? The blame is in the development and scouting. Somehow Buddy Bell has kept his job.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) That's what worries me also. Them treating Quintana like a weak starter when he's one of the most valuable trade assets in baseball. I won't be mad if he has to go, but it needs to be a franchise-changer. It shouldn't fill "one position". But "filling one position" is what they might try to do with a "win now" deal. I'd have no problem if it was Trout.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 27, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) If the Sox are first in something and this bad ... you won't see the front office dealing its only strength IMO. I think we coulda dumped Shark when we had a chance and picked up something in return. Now it's too late for that. Maybe GMs are smarter than we think. I see nothing in Shark's stats that even point to ace. The Cubs and A's didn't think so and Sox fans bought into the hype. Sure they probably could have gotten a career AAA player that makes Beckham look like a super star.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 06:14 PM) All right, an hour after the loss and we're still under 25 posts for our game threads with still a week left in the season! Congratulations Rick and Kenny! Soxtalk>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>White Sox baseball.

It's a nice discussion tho'

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 06:05 PM) So your response to "The White Sox are a losing organization who can't stop making excuses" is "Here's my list of excuses". That's the problem right there. Every. Single. Organization. Can. List. Their Excuses. Winning organizations win despite them. Losing organizations dwell on them. Ask yourself this question: If the White Sox lost just Chris Sale to a torn achilles in April where would they be? The Cardinals had the equivalent of that and laughed it off. We had Chris healthy the full year and somehow we're unlucky. I thought he missed the beginning of the season. It was like a start or two. I also believe losing and winning are habits. That was KC until last year. (still didn't win it all) Then there's the Cardinals.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 06:16 PM) The White Sox have officially been eliminated from contention for the 2nd Wild Card. If it were like hockey they would still have a chance.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 06:12 PM) Unfortunately the A's made one terrible trade last offseason and one solid trade and we somehow wound up on the giving end of the solid trade. Maybe someone will do us the favor that we did Oakland last year. Stop trading with Oakland would be a start.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 05:21 PM) How are they just going to get better hitters overnight without trading away the pitching? They can't. The problem lies with drafting and developing. Maybe LaRoche will be better since this is the first time facing AL pitching. Of course I thought the same about Adam Dunn. Maybe they can find another Abreu in Cuba. I'm amazed they keep the same scouts and instructors in the farm system that provide no results in position players. I think back in the 90's Sox pitchers in the farm system were envied by other organizations. It may be getting to the point that some GMs are wising up and growing your own players works better than free agency. I look at the money the Nationals spent and that's expensive mediocrity.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) explain ~~~ ok i think you are stating that his plan is easier said than done. His plan. It's not like they tried this before. They get the wrong people (NL veterans and the over 30 crowd). They also lack a leader with some emotion who is a player. I'm not talking about a couple of pitchers who play hardass when there's a potential brawl.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 04:39 PM) you did a great job in getting all this done.... well thought out. i hate to say anything today, b/c this is a great post. Also easier said than done.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) See, this thinking drives me completely batty because this is the thinking of the White Sox front office and it's so much the thinking of a losing organization. All you've got is a list of "excuses" even if you don't want to call them that. "Oh if LaRoche had kept this up", "If Sale had kept this up", "we're so close we're right there". Every single losing organization can say stuff like that. They're still losing organizations. But you know what? The winning organizations could say that too, but they don't. Put the Cardinals in that same mode. How many excuses could the Cardinals make this season? "Wainright missed almost the whole year. Holliday, our best hitter, was out for more than 1/2 the year. Molina has hit the DL. Adams has missed most of the year. Peralta has put up a .626 OPS the 2nd half. Yadier Molina has a .660 OPS on the season - that's his worst in 5 years. I could keep going if I wanted. Winning organizations put together rosters that can take that. Losing organizations give a list of all the bad things that happened and pretend "oh if a few of those were different we'd be right there". Some things always go wrong! Especially if you're buying guys who are in their mid to late 30s. Play the excuse game the other way with the white sox and you can make them seem awfully lucky. In 2014, Abreu, Sale, Garcia, and Eaton all hit the DL. Nate Jones was out for the whole year. This year we've been remarkably healthy, out of that group the only thing resembling the DL was Sale missing 1 start. Eaton looked like an injury prone player last offseason and he's been almost 100% healthy. We've gotten great stints from Soto and Trayce Thompson that no one would have expected. How on Earth did the White Sox get that lucky? No one would have ever guessed all those positive things could happen. The Cardinals could make excuses like that. Their excuses put ours to shame if they wanted to make them. Instead they went out and won >62% of their games and put away the only division in baseball that has 3 playoff teams with little stress. That's the difference between a winning and a losing organization and we're the latter. Post of the week!

Another nice outing by Danks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...-230140565.html

We need to get his DNA and inject it into our catchers.

The Sox probably have the largest collection of hitters than can't get around a fastball greater than 93.