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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2016 -> 03:07 AM) They did trade Reed and Santos, fwiw. Devenski to the Astros for Myers. As far as other competitors for Frazier, the Indians were very interested, as they didn't have a solution at that position coming into the year. Right now, they're using Uribe. As far as the 2005-06 teams go, a lot of players were never the same...Iguchi, Politte, Hermanson, Contreras after he got injured in May of 2006, Pods just never got back his aggressiveness on the basepaths, Crede and Jenks eventually fell apart physically. But yeah, they calculated wrong on Anderson vs. Young in CF, Javy became more a "big" game headache, you could name about 25 things. Freddy Garcia and Garland eventually started to lose their effectiveness as well. It was a veteran team, and all those players peaked, with just a few exceptions. So many what ifs...if Borchard became the player he was projected to be, or Josh Fields, just one of those guys making it would have made a huge difference, and they never would have had to trade for Thome. Of course, we don't know how long Rowand would have lasted in a White Sox uniform before he was permanently injured with his reckless style of play. They are a testament of how inept the organization was under KW. Always drafting athletes instead of baseball players. Borchard was probably a victim of being brought up too soon. Fields is an example of terrible scouting/development. If a guy can't catch a baseball that's something you really can't improve upon at the professional level. That seems to be the problem with the minors. They have so many with hardly any baseball instinct.

QUOTE (harkness @ May 21, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) It's early... but this team looks exactly the team I recognized the last 4 years under Hahn/Ventura. Lifeless offense and a bury your head in the sand conclusion at the end. This feels way way too familiar. It's the scouting. While the Sox may have good luck finding young pitching, everything else in the scouting department is beyond terrible.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 19, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) Jake Peavy, the guy who was a Cy Young and 3 time all-star? The guy who came back from a historic first surgery for a pitcher to still put up some big years even as he has gotten into his mid 30's with greatly diminished stuff? Yeah, I'd say he backed it up. We got none of that. Some can fall for the hype. The only thing he was good at in a Sox uniform was being on the DL. His career is overrated.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ May 20, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) But if you follow the series over the years, the infatuation with that rivalry is over. it was novel for the first decade the games counted, but now people just care less than ever. Yeah, Sox and Cubs fans give each other a ribbing or whatever, but the excitement over that silly series has subsided locally. The national media just hasn't paid enough attention to notice. This concocted rivalry existed long before inter league play.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 20, 2016 -> 10:08 PM) Ventura is now 28-48 in his career against the Royals. LET'S GIVE HIM A CONTRACT EXTENSION!!!!!! LOL. Mark Hopefully Hahn can see that maybe they need people outside the organization. Whether Robin deserves it or not being an outside may be the best thing. I don't really believe this organization will succeed until the Reinsdorf Regime is gone. So much needs to be gutted in this organization.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ May 20, 2016 -> 08:59 PM) I know you've said this a couple times and if that inning is causing this collapse then they were mental midgits to begin with anyway and it really was a fluke start. I doubt this team is this bad,just really frustrating to see after the hot start. Also it's been a long time the Sox ever had a hot start.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 20, 2016 -> 08:13 PM) We have played well against some good teams (like the Rangers), well, until we completely fell apart last Tuesday night. OTOH, if you take away the A's and the Twins, we're not far from being a .500ish team. Hanging curveball AGAIN from Quintana. Eaton now is playing a little bit lackadaisically out there, but has built up that reputation so nobody's bothering to challenge him on the bases for the moment. And now Cuthbert reaches. This doesn't bode well, with Putnam likely to come. Quintana coming back to earth. That's telling me the Sox are not a good team. I guess they can beat the Twins.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ May 20, 2016 -> 07:57 PM) In past year's a game like this is an automatic loss. With Gonzalez pitching tomorrow, this is a big game tonight... Let's see what kind of team this really is. I'm already sold that it's no different. I just want to be so wrong about that. Two things emerge again. No hitting for Q and a mental midget pen.

Sox -Cubs rivalry defies logic but so many of us bought into it.

QUOTE (skooch @ May 19, 2016 -> 09:24 AM) Wow. And KW still hired him. I guess some people perform better under pressure, perhaps OG performs better when blasted. It would be interesting to get KW''s recollection of the interview. There was speculation before the series that he would retire from baseball if the Sox won.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ May 19, 2016 -> 05:54 PM) Gaston won in 92 and 93. After that his teams never challenged again in his 2 stints as manager. No one else was interested in him either.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 18, 2016 -> 10:18 PM) And the future best infielder in the AL Central, Francisco Lindor....just went yard. Two problems: 1) Budget constraints 2) We can't scout at the major league level nearly as well as we do the minors...and we can't even scout our own division as well as they've counter-scouted us over the last decade, with a few exceptions. I would say Reinsdorf's buddy system in the only problem. I don't by the budget constraints at all.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 18, 2016 -> 10:13 PM) Better team won tonight We may have been duped for 6 weeks. Every team is the better team. Reality may have set in. Sale has to beat a team by himself. They might decide to score more than 1 run when Q is on the mound. Then the rest of the rotation might as well be Danks, Danks, Danks. No one is lights out in the pen. Now we seeing typical mental mistakes even from the new guys. There must be something about that uniform. I would really like a manager from outside of the organization. Hopefully our fantasy season is not over and we are back to reality.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ May 18, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) Let's get some f***** runs Exlax and prune juice oughta do it.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 17, 2016 -> 11:11 PM) Did Ventura even come out and argue and ask the ump to get help? Also bullpen and clutch hitting are gone. Resting the pen in Texas seems to have ended their mojo. I'm not so sure. It's nice to see the lineup still have some fight in them when the pen goes into mental midget mode. Last year in a game like this, down 2 the guys just wanted to leave.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 17, 2016 -> 11:58 PM) Literally every Chicago writer/beat reporter is saying that the base runner would have just went back to first. Reading the rule seems to indicate to me he would have been out, what am I missing here? The media is clueless in just about everything.

QUOTE (soxfan85 @ May 17, 2016 -> 11:08 PM) The way we are losing these games is sickening. Looks as if things are starting to even out a bit. The mental weakness has returned and it's all in the pen. This is the part of the team where there was very little turnover. Maybe the only way to ever fix this team is not keep guys in a Sox uniform for very long.

At least we don't have to worry about Beckham or Flowers coming up in this situation.

Why couldn;t the 1st base ump call the interference. The guy behind the plate totally missed calling the play at second.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ May 17, 2016 -> 10:52 PM) Why didn't Robin challenge the interference call? It can't be challenged. Still no excuse for a pitcher to get the next out.

Albers - mental midget. Another two out clusterf***.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 17, 2016 -> 10:38 PM) My rule would be if you go to extra innings you bust out the beer. Not a single good swing by anybody that inning. Wow. With Albers in that should change.

If I were a hitter I would find that windup really annoying more than confusing.

QUOTE (1dog @ May 15, 2016 -> 03:48 PM) Sorry if it's been brought up (I only listened to part of the game), but I just heard Hawk say that the Yankees have won the last 141 straight games when leading the game after 8 innings? This seems unbelievable... We should given them Duke.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 15, 2016 -> 04:04 PM) Thought for the Day / Stats of the Day: Thought for the Day: Chase Headley is the new Ryan Raburn. A mediocre player who makes a career of killing the White Sox and ONLY the White Sox. Stats of the Day: We are roughly six weeks into the season and the Sox “5th starter” has yet to record one single, solitary victory. Not…one… On this six game road trip White Sox pitchers allowed 21 TWO OUT RBI’S!!! (That’s ridiculous…) The Sox need to get home and get their collective heads back together. This has not been the same team since they gave away that game Tuesday night in Texas. There obviously has been a hangover from that one and they need to stop it quick. As far as Zach Duke...more and more the deal the Sox gave him is looking like a big mistake. Mark Maybe they have. Today seemed like such a duplicate of last season except for the tying it again. Too many mental midgets in the pen. No clutch. I feel that way with everyone in the pen. No Adam Vinateris in there.