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QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:39 PM) I wish you wouldn't let the Pollyannas determine what you say. I wish I could be a pollyana.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) The last 10 years have fully convinced me that saying "I'll trade 1 WS for 10 years of garbage teams" remains completely the right move. I'll never forget what a dominant postseason that was. I think if they didn't struggle in Sept. that outcome might have been different.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 11:35 AM) Elrockin, in all your time being a White Sox fan, why do you think it has happened? Some here have attributed it to being "overly respectful/fearful" of the Twins on the part of Ozzie, Harrelson, etc. Getting "psyched out." Since it's obviously a huge problem historically and indicative of current issues the team has (and has had), then wouldn't it be better to do some self-reflection and figure out a way to get beyond it...? Team psychologist? Better advance/d scouting? Better international prospect development (particularly Latin America)? It's not just the Tigers and Royals though, we're behind every AL Central team over a 7+ year period in head-to-head play. How can you as a fan explain that? Simply the fact that all those teams were better, had more talent? Reached their full potential, whereas the White Sox as a team and organization haven't? I remember back in that 2001-2006 time period, we constantly heard how the "Twins were just lucky," but it was because they were so sound fundamentally (especially from a defensive standpoint) and allowed their more talented opponents to beat themselves. They also had really, really good bullpens at that time, fwiw. Recently, it has been that the Royals were "just lucky and outperforming their peripherals and predicted WAR, etc." at FG, and BP, and Pecota projections, etc. They were better at fundamentals and their stadium had a lot to do with it. The problem when the Twins went into the post season their opponents could play fundamental baseball and had more talent.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 05:20 AM) If momentum is so real, how come the Sox had none after they came back and beat the Mets after trailing 4-0, and won the next day in extra innings? E It sure seems the lethargy is real.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) On the bright side, with all of these people who have given up, the game thread should be much better tonight. Wishful thinking.

I wonder if one of the reason they got Shields is possible trade bait before the deadline.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) Agreed. On a decision of that nature JR has to give his blessing. For example he OK'd letting go Tony LaRussa (and has admitted publicly many times afterwards that was one of the biggest mistakes he ever made as owner. The others? OK'ing the trade of Jerry Koosman and hiring Hawk as G.M.) Mark JR was not fortunate to have a crystal ball to tell him otherwise. We fans wanted LaRussa fired as well. There is no guarantee LaRussa would have been successful here anyway. The Cardinals are a complete 180 of the White Sox. I would imagine their success is based on every one from the scouting, development, management, are all on the same page. I believe the reason why Ozzie quit was this organization is a dead end when it comes to winning.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) This trade is doing something for the sake of doing something. Shields experience can help the younger guys in the rotation but he isn't likely to fare much better than Gonzales or Latos have. He is supposedly a really good clubhouse guy which is a plus. The Sox gave up nothing but some salary flexibility in this trade. But I don't really believe it did much to help this team win either. That's right. Coop has failed in that so far.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) Nine straight divisional losses. 3-12 against everyone in the division not named Minnesota. Total, complete garbage. I’m actually at the point now where I’m surprised that they’ve actually won a game. I’m trying to figure out if this collapse under Robin is worse than the one in September 2012. I don’t think it is (yet) because that team was so close to the finish line. This one when it started, well you still had 80% of the season to go. Given the schedule, if this continues for another two weeks, I’d hope the Sox front office starts thinking about who they can sell off for prospects. Don’t make the same mistake they did last year at the deadline. “But…but we’re in CONTENTION!!” Yea, right. LOL. And the beat(ings) goes on. Mark Since when did this organization have the ability to scout and develop prospects?

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 09:09 AM) That wouldn't be the worst thing ever. We could get several AMAZING packages of prospects and young, established players for Sale, Quintana and Eaton. It would be the worst thing. Show me where this organization has a good track record of scouting and development.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:45 PM) Good question. I am frustrated also but choose to think maybe those three hits and two runs in the ninth inning are a good sign It's called a tease.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) Well, we've confirmed that Matt Albers still does indeed suck. We need a McDougal type in the pen to compliment the Tony Pena clone.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) What a day it would be to wake up and find out the entire coaching staff and front office was terminated That would require putting them all on the same flight an an accident would happen.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 04:42 PM) I'm not realistic. I genuinely dislike this team. I'm waiting to see them prove me wrong. Here's another shot. I'll be the first to admit I can't stand this team. Major move here from RH, he's now spent a lot of the money he saved on LaRoche. Shields better produce. Same here but its really the front office I can't stand. Sox Talk is the only thing keeping me interested.

I wish we could trade for a manager. This really does nothing for me as a fan. So we have another guy who will lose games 3-1.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 11:34 AM) Rollins or Garcia...really doesn't matter. They both suck. But you do have to wonder if at least some of Sox management has finally seen the light on Garcia as often as he's been benched this year. Mark He went from being a Tiger to a White Sox. I wonder how much is really his lack of talent vs. lack of development. This is the organization where you come to regress.

That was a nice swing by Albers.

BTW who got the game winning hit?

I love day baseball.

With the scouting and developing as is I doubt this organization has the ability to rebuild.

I'm Latos intolerant.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 31, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) Managers receive too much blame and too much credit. Every year about 30 managers deserve to be fired. Robin is definitely one of those 30.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) CSN is carried everywhere now. Local coverage.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2016 -> 11:17 AM) The Dodgers and Yankees are having trouble getting the cable companies to pay the carrying fees associated with their networks. With Comcast being the company they are leaving, I can't see things being nearly as easy for the Cubs as you think. In fact, for someone who follows history as much as you do, the parallels to White Sox leaving for SportsVision are pretty impressive. The Cubs are going to leave an existing network which is carried on every single cable and satellite company for one that doesn't yet exist, and will need to fight to get those networks to pay extra for them. Seeing how hard that has been for Houston, LA, and even the Yankees, I don't see your level of optimism. If you are referring to WGN that's not happening anymore. I think TBS stopped that some time ago. I can see your point to an extent that cable companies are losing revenue with plenty of cable TV cancellations.

QUOTE (SpankyEaton @ May 31, 2016 -> 06:43 AM) I can't think of one - some person wrote that Portland would be a good idea, I don't think it would. I do think that a new owner would really help the Sox, but I wonder if they'd want to keep the team at the Cell, in the suburbs or move out of Illinois. Financially, I doubt the state has enough revenue to help pick up the tab to build another stadium in the suburbs, even though I would love the Chicago White Sox of Oakbrook. That's because you can only think as a fan. I'm sure a businessman with little emotional interest and very deep pockets could do research to prove us wrong. Attendance, and potential TV and Radio revenue would probably prove you wrong. If you move where there is little competition with other pro sports teams people will flock there. In my perfect world owners would foot the bill for their own stadium. They don't because they know it's a bad investment and they use the usual "extra revenue in the off season" lie. They hold a city and its taxpayers hostage with the threat of leaving. Yet no politician has the balls to let them leave. BTW unless it has changed but the IL taxpayers shell out $500K to the White Sox.