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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 12:39 AM) If you have those 10 games, or if it isn't too much trouble, I'd like to see the games you believe Thornton lost. I was at a game in Minnesota in which Thornton induced a double play with the bases loaded and no outs that one could argue won the Sox the game. Some of that is from retrying the failing experiment of Thorton as closer.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 10:35 PM) I'll try to take a stab at who I think the Sox may trade . I have always like Viciedo. He has tremendous upside and is relatively cheap. He's the one position player I'd like to see the Sox keep. He'll be a monster if he can learn to hit righties. He's probably the most movable piece the Sox have. Maybe we could get a similar player who just hits LH for him. Viciedo to FL sounds like a natural fit with the big Cuban population there and with Giancarlo Stanton ( though he's also RH) unhappy they could be the main pieces in a deal. I'd love it if Dunn could be moved though the return would depend on how much salary the Sox eat. Unfortunately some off the guys I like for the Sox are in their division like Alex Gordon and Sin Soo Choo. Brett Gardner and David Murphy,wouldn't be bad adds. Andrew McCuthchen fits the bill as an impact LH bat though most likely unattainable Hahn should look for takers on Rios and Konerko also though PK has 10 and 5 rights I believe. If Sox falter trade deadline should see a lot of action . 1. I don't think Viciedo is as valuable as Sox fans think. 2. I would like to see Dunn gone - but you still have to replace him. 3. Rios is probably your most valuable OF. Only trade him if a deal is too good to be true. Tell me what so impressive with De Aza and Wise that you would get rid of Rios?

QUOTE (spiderman @ Nov 20, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) It'll be interesting to see how the Detroit pitching staff holds up after another long season on their arms. Their back end of the rotation isn't too shabby either. Plus their pitching coach is pretty good.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 16, 2012 -> 12:23 PM) What other options are there? Let's hope it's not taking players and making them play positions they were never comfortable at. Somewhere that insanity has to stop.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2012 -> 06:56 PM) That is right about where the Tigers would have finished too. Looking at the standings I didn't realize 3rd place fell off that far, but the point remains that the Tigers don't win s*** without Miguel Look how both players fared the last two months. Cabrera hands down. I also think most writers shy away from voting a rookie as MVP.

A lot of anti Tiger bias here. Triple Crown winner, played in every game but one, I give it to Cabrera because of the Triple Crown. That is so tough to do these days.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Nov 14, 2012 -> 01:20 PM) I was merely stating that it seems like an overpay for Hunter, regardless of who is paying. You're right that an owner as such probably doesn't care about overpaying for two years. I doubt he would have gotten that much from many other teams. I'm glad someone else sign this guy "that Kenny always wanted". It's over pay but only for 2 years.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 08:44 AM) Why we're not also shopping Thornton, Crain or both is beyond me. With the emergence of Veal...you just can't have Matt being paid like a quasi-closer and still afford guys like Youkilis, Peavy and AJ at the same time on the roster. That's why I never pay attention to any media when it comes to players on the trading block. They all are if there is a deal to good to pass up.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 12:57 PM) I would think as long as KW is around, the Sox will know exactly the dangers in making that move. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, but KW went from a terrific prospect to bust when moved from the OF to 3b. Many thought he was going to be a star in CF. Maybe he would have still have been a bust, but I'm sure he knows exactly what the move entails. Unfortunately that sounds more like what KW does. Trying to pound the suare into the round hole.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 07:13 PM) I saw most of the Rockies' games this, year, and, boy, do they need pitching. They also have three young infielders who can all play third very well and they can hit. They also have a new GM who is probably afraid to pull the trigger, but one of these three guys would most likely be available for pitching. They are all better than anything we have, including Morel and Youk. Could they use Adam Dunn?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 09:19 PM) I want Dunn gone as much as anybody but I think we'd have to throw in Q, Santiago, Viciedo and maybe Flowers. That's how untradeable that sack of whacklord is IMO. Nope. Another thing the Sox need to stop doing is trading away young affordable pitching. I keep Q and Santiago.

I like the deal since they are not handcuffed long term. Next, get rid of Dunn.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 29, 2012 -> 02:16 AM) This again shows how the Sox losing so many games to Detroit is all mental. That team can't hit a baseball and can't field a baseball and has no bullpen. NL continues dominance of AL ... interesting. Oh please, the Tigers were better than the Sox and they were better than the other post season teams in the AL. The Giants beat them with pitching. How often is a staff good enough were a former CY winner is in the pen-who happen to look wicked.

QUOTE (MAX @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 08:15 PM) Ditka is at least somewhat intelligent. Yeah, like when he was going to make a stupid trade thinking the Colts were going to draft Ricky Williams.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 05:40 PM) He was brought in to hit. Which he mysteriously forgot how to do, just like many other vets who play for Ozzie. You could cherry pick that I guess. Then there was Pods and Dye and the 2006 lineup.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 29, 2012 -> 01:21 AM) No way I'll celebrate this. Now Detroit will be hungry again next year to get back to the playoffs and Series to complete the deal. Now Leyland will stay to try to complete the deal. This sucks. Detroit got embarrassed totally. Fielder will want revenge next year. Hopefully you realize this is only bulls*** the fans believe brought on by no talent idiot announcers working for major networks. Also, Tiger fans aren't the biggest Leyland supporters.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 29, 2012 -> 03:01 PM) How are they not a rival? They are the one team standing between the Sox and the playoffs. They were last year too and probably will be next year. Also, you mean envy, not jealousy. Common misuse: http://www.diffen.com/difference/Envy_vs_Jealousy Are they a rival if you keep getting owned by them?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 09:11 AM) You are still way above 85 wins. I personally don't necessarily blame Ozzie for Dunn/Rios, although an argument could be made. Supposedly Rios and Ozzie were buddies but I don't know if that was true all along which could explain the getting away with loafing or he suddenly became Ozzie's pal when he had to be separated from KW. Ozzie spouts off that he knew Dunn was going to be bad in spring training but it took him over 100 games to move him down in the line up when he wasn't managing to win but managing to try to make his boss look bad. To not notice or to let it slide because of 2005, would question fanhood to me. With a long season you keep playing the money guys hoping they snap out of their funk.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 07:41 AM) All you have to do is look at what those guys did either once they left Chicago, or after Guillen left Chicago. Think about it. Swisher, Rios, Vazquez, Dunn... He forced Thome out for Kotsay, etc. 2012 was to a large extent due to rebounds from guys who died under Ozzie, and the farm system way out performing anything anyone outside of the organization ever predicted them to do. I still disagree. Swisher is up to his same tricks. Anyone can do better in the Yankees lineup. Another example of using the wrong people to fill a hole. Kenny's biggest blunder IMO. Rios-credit De Aza (under Ozzie) to be able to play CF. Once again the wrong person to fill a hole. Credit Manto for Rios. You could blame Ozzie for sticking with the same hitting coach.

Just win. That's all it takes. Competitive doesn't work.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 09:29 PM) I'm a Lincecum fan- it's great seeing contribute in a big way despite not starting. Their situations are different, but how about Washington taking this approach with Strasburg instead of what they ended up doing? At first glance I think it's a resounding no- purely because you don't want to risk messing with him mentally by introducing him to a different role/taking him out of his comfort zone, but that was a pretty awful way to get bounced from the postseason, and who's to say shutting him down like that doesn't affect him/ Me too. It must be nice for a team to have strong enough pitching. Right now he's a very expensive reliever.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 11:00 PM) It shows nothing. The AL was better than the national league this year despite the fact that the Giants are likely going to win the world series. There are no dominant teams in baseball right now and when you have a short series anything is possible. I think the talent is still better in the AL but when it comes to a team game, it appears the NL is better.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 10:31 AM) His last few years here, Ozzie Guillen was the single biggest destroyer of Kenny Williams deals. 2012 proved just that. I can't agree with that. Kenny tried to fill holes with the wrong guys. 2012 is just a repeat of the same ending, just different characters.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Oct 25, 2012 -> 11:17 AM) Does that mean the dedicated Miami Marlins thread is going bye bye? We can only hope.