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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 08:41 AM) If Morel could get his act together and Beckham could keep hitting like he is right now, Gillaspie/Morel, Alexei (or other), Beckham, and Keppinger (UT) could cover the IF roster fairly affordably for the next 2 years. Puts a lot of pressure on the corners to remain above-average run producers, though.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 10, 2013 -> 02:42 PM) The Dodgers like to make Playstation trades anyway, so forget Ethier because we don't want him anyway. Alexei + Crain + Keppinger + Dunn for Dee Gordon + Juan Uribe Uribe's in the last year of his deal & would replace Keppinger's bad contract, he'd be our UT guy again and clubhouse guy until someone offered to take on part of his remaining deal. Gordon gets plugged in now & we see what he has, so basically Alexei and Crain buy out Dunn's deal and all the money we owe to Keppinger. The Sox get more payroll room and can now start shopping Reed heavily in search of a starting position player. For the Dodgers, Crain is League insurance and bullpen depth, Alexei makes them a s***load better, Keppinger is their UT guy, and they just release Dunn simply because it is easier to take on a player's contract & eat the money, and I doubt MLB offices would approve LA sending us $25M or whatever it is that would be left on Dunn's deal. For the Dodgers their chances go way up & they really give up nothing. Blech

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 10, 2013 -> 08:52 AM) What are we getting bumped for? I'm guessing Tyler Perry's House of Pain.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) IMO, it would really behoove the White Sox to avoid grabbing pitchers in any trade this year (unless they're buried down in A-ball). Their rotation is stacked and their bullpen may need an extra veteran arm or two next year, but its in a better place than the lineup. If the Sox pick up a starter who can be a #3-#4 starter, he's just going to be stuck at Charlotte next year unless someone gets hurt, and he'd be lucky to be the 2nd option in that case with guys like Johnson and Snodgress around. I agree -- the system needs big bats, even if they are of the lumbering variety. The Konerko era is ending, and Dunn will be out the door as well.

General reactions to this thread: 1) Our team is really bad. Do not fear breaking down a bad team. The alternative is remaining bad and getting older. 2) No one wants Paul Konerko right now. Least of all f***ing Arizona. 3) Why are we talking so much about Chris Sale? It's not even a possibility because no GM will risk the assets required to get him on his jerky release. 4) Jesse Crain will not bring back a substantial prospect. Something, yes, but not something exciting.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 10, 2013 -> 10:20 AM) On another subject...I'm all for a Ethier for Dunn deal. If the Dodgers ate money AND we trade Alex Rios, I'd be down. But what the hell would the Dodgers do with Dunn? He's not playing over AGon.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 09:33 PM) Some video via Kiley McDaniel: Also here: Damn, he's got a good second gear...

From Al Skorupa at a FanGraphs chat:

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 08:41 PM) Would the White Sox dare take Manaea at 55 and hope Don Cooper can sell him on the Sox? If he goes in the 2nd round, he's giving up SO much money if he could come back and prove himself healthy next year. Looks like the Royals are going to try to overslot him or Stanek.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 08:30 PM) Hawkins has 3 more months and possibly the AFL to re-establish his value. Being jumped all the way to High A one year out of high school only happens about 1-2% of the time. Don't forget he had a great year last year, too. And he's still hitting bombs -- he's 19 and struggling with the one thing everyone knew he would need to work on.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 08:28 PM) Who would be 4 and 5 now? Would be hard to choose anyone that's standing out....I would guess, Thompson? Daniel Webb? Snodgress? Sanchez still? You certainly can't argue Beck's moved up significantly....he should be near the back end of the Top 10. Gotta be Sanchez then Thompson

Hate this pick. Might not even stay at SS. Good pitchers on the board

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 06:47 PM) If he's the best college bat available this really is a weak draft class. Mayo seems to think there's a good chance he moves to RF. He led the goddamn nation in homeruns, lol.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 06:40 PM) What will be the approximate difference in Appel's bonus between this year and what he would have received last? I wonder if it was worth the risk. He will get more now, but he also is a year further away from arb and free agency if he is any good. Slot is like $7.7m for #1. It's more like $3m for #9.

I wonder if he could get more velocity from a lower arm slot. I'm sure there's a great reason not to change that now.

If you subscribe to ****ing cable, you should be able to watch the blackout games on any device. I tried to use MLB.tv to watch games when I was with my mom in the hospital for three weeks and was completely shut out. So stupid. I'm already paying for this game TWICE.

QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 10:58 AM) OK, my intent was not to call Jeter a great defensive SS initially, I was just pointing out that a guy could make a ton of errors early on and still stay in a position for the rest of his career. I did not do a good job of saying that. And I apologize for going off track to defend Jeter, but you guys are correct that he was not an above average defensive SS. So, a SS can make 50 errors and can turn out to be a decent SS, many of those early errors are also attributed to the field conditions in lower leagues. But to me, no way a 2Bman should be making 18 errors by now. Not sure how many are throwing errors, and those are really terrible if happening already at 2B, unless on occasions of making a great play and trying to hurry a throw. Now watch me be totally wrong and the guy turns out to be a good 2Bman. But I still say just move him, and the sooner the better. Just my opinion. Errors aren't the thing. It's range that makes the biggest difference.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) A torn labrum in the hip sure wouldn't stop me from picking Manaea. That isn't that big of a deal. The thing is if he's fixable, he's a near lock for top 5 next year, so there's no way he's going to sign as low as #17. Slot value there is $2.1m, slot value at #1 is $7.7m. He's going back to school.

Yeah Omogrosso is not very good, guys. There's worse out there, granted, but I will shed no tears for swapping him with Troncoso/Heath.

QUOTE (mike89128 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 02:19 PM) This is way off topic.I've been a Sox fan since 1951.Living in Vegas I get MLB extra Innings package.But the west coast teams,except Seattle are blacked out in Vegas when the Sox play them regardless where played,the Oakland series is blacked out.I've heard MLB is going to revamp its blackout rules for next year.Does anybody have facts about the changes.Thanks If it's off-topic, my friend, you should consider starting a thread about it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 12:49 PM) It is a lot different now than it used to be with the new CBA. If you go more than 10% over your allotment, you lose your next first round pick. 15%+ and you lose two first round picks. It isn't like before when you just went over slot. It now means something. Yes, the game has changed now. You gotta do something like Correa and the Astros to get overslot later now. And there's a pretty strict limit to how far you can go.

Is this a snake or an auction?

Someone actually said "Jeter but better."

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 10:24 AM) The preview says Gonzalez's stock is rising because of the development of his slider. They use different balls in college. Thicker and higher seams. Sliders tend to flatten out a little bit when college pitchers turn pro. If his fastball has a lot of movement, that's a good thing, and there is always the possiblity his slider will still be effective with the different ball, but it is worth noting college baseballs and sliders is kind of like projecting hitters with aluminum bats. That seems very strange that they wouldn't use the same balls.

Callis' final mock has the Sox at Alex Gonzalez. I think that if he's available, he'll absolutely be the Sox pick. Personally, I'd like Renfore, Stanek, or Smith if any of those three drop.