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But there isn’t a single, factual answer to “how good is guy x.” Every properly-informed opinion of a prospect contains useful information and should be used to build a consensus on a range of expected outcomes.

Every time a list comes out that doesn’t gush on our guys, this board calls it stubborn or tears down the writers credentials. You don’t have to agree with their evaluations, but they are well-informed, well-thought our opinions based on a combination of industry sources and first-hand looks, and they have the resumes to back their opinions up.

They got a few guys they’d like to move (Nova/Santana/Alonso/Jay), but the difference this year is that they have to let a bunch of the prospects get the to majors and “take their lumps.”

What a joke-ass team.

He is 20 years old.

The thing is, anyone who knew how to look at peripherals knew how badly Shields sucked BEFORE he got to Chicago. I hated the trade the day it happened, but it isn’t because I knew anything about Tatis — it was because Shields was obviously cooked and was not going to be able to answer our rotation need. Completely regardless of the price, Shields simply wasn’t a good player to get, and everyone in the league knew it except the white Sox.

I’ve heard utility infielder type

I agree. But there’s always a price where it makes sense, if for nothing other than as a flip candidate. But his price obviously hasn’t gotten there.

If he was willing to sign at a price you’d feel good about, he would have already signed.

Probably not, but I don’t think he’s talking about Pederson. Makes more sense he is talking about a different player that actually got moved.

That makes no sense to me at all. The only way I can imagine that being plausible is if the leak led another team to jump in and outbid the White Sox for a player. Which, since Pederson has not been traded, would lead me to believe that some kind of leak is not what stopped it from happening.

What a waste of a lineup spot

Seventy?

This team fucking sucks and I'm losing my passion for it for the first time in my life.

Which is in the process of hammering out a posting deal similar to the npb one. It’s just unfortunately a tough time to do stuff like this. The league has put a stranglehold on teams abilities to spend their way to being competitive in any way other than free agency. Smart teams were taking advantage of it when they had the opportunity. But, unfortunately, our team is not smart.

Sugano and Senga will never be available until they achieve international free agency in their early 30s. The Giants and Hawks literally never post players, and have publicly denied requests from both of those players to be posted, despite both players publicly expressing their desire. Furthermore, the MLB, in its indomitable quest to restrict the earning potential of every non-unionized player on earth, has bullied the npb into progressively worse posting systems, and the recent one is so bad that we are likely to see far fewer players posted than in the past couple decades simply because the amount of money that teams stand to gain in selling their most promising stars is now laughably small. The owners, apparently, would rather simply not have access to elite talent than be required to pay anything remotely close to market value. Norimoto may be available but he has publicly stated that he wants to pitch for Japan in the olympics first, so it’ll be a couple years down the road, and he is notoriously overworked by Rakuten who just flat out abuses its pitchers, and he is starting to have injury issues pop up. He’s out the first half of this season because of a procedure to “clean up” his elbow. Shintaro fujinami is a fantastic, all-time level bust. He isn’t even on the Tigers top team right now.

Both Santana and banuelos will get opportunities to make the rotation this season. This is nothing to worry about.

Because we will never have a chance at all of the prospects don’t get a chance to develop. They already got Nova to stabilize the rotation, presumably back when Gio was insisting on multiple years.

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Worst post I've ever seen on this site.

If the contracts were for one year, I think that would make sense. But a tremendous portion of what teams are buying in this case is specifically the mid and late twenties seasons that aren’t available normally. Pujols and Cabrera were are arguably the best hitters in the game when they signed, but they were selling years of decline. And their value isn’t as much higher as it seems (than Machado and Harper) becaus eof the defensive difference. Also: I think if you focus on the fact that Machado/Harper signed the largest TOTAL guaranteees inbistory, but didn’t really come close to the highest AAV currently in the game, it fits with your mindset a bit more.

The logic doesn’t work because the contract is for them as total players, not just hitters. And because it entirely ignores age. So citing lumbering DHs in the early to mid thirties as examples for why elite athletes in their mid-20s won’t work out is making a false equivalency.

This argument would make a lot of sense if you said top five instead of top ten, were completely unaware of the players’ ages, and didn’t realize that defense exists.

Oh don’t worry, they’ll get you some established hitters here in a year or two. Like those you mentioned, they’ll all be a few seasons past their peak output and their contracts will be nearly underwater, which will limit further upgrades to some that look remarkably similar to what the Reds did to their pitching staff. And they’ll probably block a few prospects, too.

It’s a Cincinnati Reds rebuild.