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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 08:39 PM) But if the stats show booing hurts performance, why take the risk? You keep comparing a boss to a player playing a sport. Imagine if in the middle of a presentation, your boss started booing you. How do you think that would go? After the game, behind closed doors, is an appropriate time to discuss failures. Obviously, there are both sides to the coin. Everyone has feelings. The fans, by booing, are letting their feelings be heard. By booing, the fans could, according to you, impact the players mental make up. But if you don't have a strong mental makeup, it won't take you far in life. Some of the most successful athletes ever have strong mental makeups. The fans are paying to see the game, the players getting paid, who do you think should be understanding of the others feeling. I can understand that if it's a free game, than fans should not boo, but that's not the case. Just imagine if the fans cheer for everything during the game, how would the players react? I mean, I certainly remember the fans giving Adam some cushion for error, but he was HISTORICALLY bad, at what point do you boo him? If you are just plain awful at your job, you would be fired, no excuses.

Players who make top dollars understand the fans expectations A story from the other day: http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8...cial-slur-rehab

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 08:13 PM) I care about my team winning and losing. I dont care about whether you had a good game. Im there for the Sox to win. So far you havent shown me how booing helps that cause more than cheering. But you can't separate a team losing from the fact that players are not performing. I would argue that booing helps the same as cheering for failures. It shows that fans have expectations, and it puts more pressure on the players to perform rather than giving themselves more cushion because they think the fans would stand behind them regardless. Baseball is a business, and just like a traditional business setting, there are rewards and punishments. At work, the boss would give recognition for good work and give warnings for not meeting expectation, and yet those warnings keep you in check. The players understand this, and they often blame themselves for not performing. Rarely do I hear players blaming the fans for their failures.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 07:54 PM) And maybe that is true. But as a fan, I want the players on my team to do well. So I can get over my need to boo my own player, to try and be positive and hope that they play better. I can only speak for myself, but a lot of people are hard on themselves, and the last thing they need is a group of people who cant remotely do what they do, booing from the sidelines as if they understand. From my perspective, fans who boo at the game didn't pay $30-40 to get in to the game to comfort the players. Fans pay big bucks to watch a good game. This isn't a Little League game where everybody is a winner and nobody gets their feelings hurt. There are expectations when you are making $15 million a year.

Why should people feel ashamed of themselves? Should we suspect that every athlete who struggles with their performances to be dealing with life crisis? It's not like people are booing him for this family issues. Fans have expectations and booing is a consequences of players failing to meet expectation. And I didn't think this was news, I believe it was posted here at the end of last season.

QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 07:20 PM) Can MLB teams still offer to pay for a high school athletes future college expenses or is that banned in the new CBA? Yes, and I don't think those spendings factor in the bonus pool

I always wondered how the personal accomplishments work in this situation, does both Peavy and Wilson get an All star team appearance in their resume?

The only Upton I would trade for is Kate. Personally, I feel that the Upton brothers are extremely overrated. You would think that with all the hype that Justin has gotten, he would be fairly accomplished at this point of his career. He's turning 25 next month, this is his 6th season in the league, his highest BA is .300, high RBI total is 88, only had one 30 HR season, sports a career BA of .276 and OPS of .831 He and his brother have always had potential, but both still haven't put it all together at this point. The trend I notice about Justin is that he would show improvement one season, but regress the next season. He was great last year, but he's only a 1 WAR player this year! And his defense thus far is merely average. He is a nice player to have, at a reasonable cost. But I feel like whoever trades for him is overpaying for him in hopes that he finally puts it together and performs consistently. For the burden of his contract, if we have to deplete our farm and even put in Sale in the deal, then I give it a strong hell no.

You best believe the Tigers are setting up Verlander against the Sox.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2012 -> 09:49 PM) His batting average may suck, but isn't his on base percentage way better than AJ's? He's been so productive with HRs and Ribbies I think he's a more valuable hitter than AJP. AJP has the higher OPS. Dunn might have the higher OBP, but he also struck out 100 times more than AJ. When it's all said and done, strikeouts are unproductive and will not move the runners along. And also AJ is actually providing good defense behind the plate and doing a great job of handling the staff. So yes, at this point, AJ has been a more valuable player to the team than Dunn. Hands down.

Dunn hitting .210 after tonight. Anyone know the lowest BA for a player on the All Star team? It's a shame AJ didn't make it, I say he's even more deserving than Dunn.

For those who like Sale for the rest of the year, shouldn't you have to take into account Sale might be limited in the second half of the season? I think he will be capped at around 180 innings, while Price can go 230 innings for you. I will take Price down the stretch especially if we are in a neck to neck race for a playoff spot.

Holy Mitchell!

What is going on down in Bristol? Hawkins gets pulled, Basto gets pulled and DeMichele as well.

Hey look, Kevin Moran got an out... after allowing 4 runs. Send that kid home!

For Adderall. The performance in days he took his Adderall vs the days he didn't is day and night.

I would like to see the Sox be a little aggressive with Kevan Smith. He turned 24 already, and is still stuck in Low A. He is putting up pretty solid numbers considering the fact that he plays in a pitcher friendly park. The Sox need to put in in W-S and let him split time behind the plate with Blanke.

The obvious choice is Quintana.

I would see how Castro performs in Triple A before I call him a top pitching prospect. The guy has been in Double A for three straight years, so it's not surprising that he's doing well. He was straight up atrocious in Triple A the past two years.

I think we could do something like RealGM right here. http://forums.realgm.com/boards/index.php?...b8ec7c889b6a05d The first layer of the forum should be the sport of the forum, like SoxTalk, General Baseball Talk, Basketball Talk, Football Talk, etc, then move the Soxtalk sub forums into the Baseball Talk section, and then create sub forums for each sport forum. The front layer of the website would just be link to each sports forum. Since I think we still want Soxtalk as the flagship forum of the website, we could still leave the domain name of the home page as soxtalk.com, then and put Soxtalk forum in the first section on its own, and the subsequent sports forum in one section beneath it. Is this possible?

Party over the internet? Are alcoholic beverages and strippers allowed?

Golden Boy is back

Bad news, Fukudome is rehabbing.

Just saw the replay of the appeal, and interestingly, part of the reason Q was able to keep his pitch total down was the bizarre triple play in the 6th inning, where he got three outs with one pitch. Herrera was out on the Sac Fly, Treanor was out on leaving base early, and I believe Gordon was out for leaving the base amongst the confusion (?). That's gotta be the first of its kind.

49 RBIs for Thompson on the season, which is good for 3rd in the league, despite a hopeless .217 avg, pretty much an amazing feat.