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I hear Wisconsin is looking for more OOC games.

Relevant isn't the same as competitive. ND hasn't been competitive since Holtz, but they are still as relevant. They still move the needle just as much. Maybe Michigan could have their own TV deal, but then without their conference where could they find 11 other football teams they can beat?

Maybe you don't understand the difference between figurative and literal. In the world of college football, ND is figuratively the "richest kid" The Big Ten did at one point decide to go from 8 to 9 games, and even though they've switched back, the time in between caused some shifts in the series with MSU and UM, which was part of what got the ball rolling for ND to make the ACC move.

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There are 30 teams, every team has a #1 starter, and Jake is one of the 30 best starters. If you want to say there aren't 30 #1 starters, then there aren't 30 #2 starters and so on and so then you have to number beyond #5 to include all of the starters and maybe there's some guy out there that's a #9 starter and another who's a #13 starter.

All of that data is misleading. Part of the NBC contract sends money directly to the University and not to the athletic department, so it won't show up in football revenues/profits. The NBC contract covers ND home games only. ND still gets a share in money from away games. Conference TV contracts cover all conference games home and away in addition to non-conference home games. Also, ND has sacrificed some TV revenue in exchange for more control over start times. If ND's goal was maximizing TV dollars, they could probably get 20-30% more money in exchange for giving NBC total control over start times. It's pretty easy to pull a bunch of numbers off the internet. It's much harder to understand what they actually mean.

There may be a 2-year slot where UM could put USC in place of ND, but USC is not picking up a second big time school as a permanent OOC rivalry. Purdue and MSU will play ND as often as ND wants.

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Purdue isn't dropping ND at all. MSU and UM are moving from playing ND every year to 4-6 years of every ten. This has everything to do with the Big Ten going to a 9-game conference schedule and nothing to do with ND.

Wonder why ADA and Weezy swapped LF and CF?

I think the new arrangement can last 10 years. The ACC is an ideal home for all sports except football.

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Sometimes the landscape of the sport pits traditions against each other, and you have to decide which traditions to keep. The recent trend of DePaul, Providence, Seton Hall, Villanova, and St. John's made playing in a predominantly Catholic conference and a good conference mutually exclusive options.

So that's why there was only ever one of him playing at a time.

@Baltimore is on a weekend in September. I hear that it's kinda near DC.

Texas is the second biggest, second richest kid on the block, and when the two biggest, richest kids get together, they can do some pretty big things. The ND-Texas series isn't going away--neither team is going to throw away that kind of cash. ND is already playing 4 ACC teams this year anyway. USC, Purdue, and Navy will stay as permanent opponents. Stanford, Michigan, and MSU will probably get cut back to part-time opponents, which was probably going to happen anyway since the Pac-12 and Big 10 are switching to 9 game conference schedules.

The possibility of joining the ACC in other sports and going independent in football wasn't on the table when Texas agreed to stay in the Big 12. That might be an option now. ACC would have 16 teams in basketball, with ND and Texas being independent in football but playing 5 ACC teams per year. I don't know for a fact that Texas has the same offer as ND, but I know that the three parties have discussed it. Texas very badly wants an association with ND, and since ND wouldn't go to the Big 12, this is how they could get it done.

Care to wager on that??

FSU might want to wait to see what happens next before they go banging on the Big 12's door.

I'm completely shocked that the NY Times would side with the President's best friend.

ND isn't joining in football, but the deal calls for ND to play 5 ACC teams per year, with at least one game against each team every 3 years, so it improves the conference's TV exposure, which is important for FSU and Clemson. I'm also hearing that there may be another shoe still to drop.

Except that the ACC has solid footing in the Southeast, which the Big East never really had. ND joining the ACC probably keeps FSU and Clemson from bolting to the Big 12.

All road games farther west than KC are over by June 17. Sets up nice if the Sox are in or near first then. Last 19 games are all division games and 14 of those are at home.

If MLB wants a giant media frenzy, they could make the Sox-Marlins series open the season.

Being Catholic may have been a factor that was played up by the media, but from ND's perspective, overall academic reputation was more important than specifically being Catholic. Also, four of the ACC schools (BC, Duke, WF, and Miami) are private and a couple of the public schools (UVA, GT) are on the smaller side for state schools have have much more of a private school atmosphere. Access to markets has always been important, in fact, the movement of a lot of those markets from the Big East to the ACC (Miami, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Pitt) is a big reason why ND is making the move as well. The Big East is a failing league, the Big 12 never had a chance, so it was down to the Big Ten and ACC and which one would blink first and offer ND a chance to remain independent in football.