Feeky Magee

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 07:01 PM) With Montas, Hawkins and Anderson all out....our minor league watch list is pretty limited. Horrid Johnson starts, Jared Mitchell recriminations, Trey M., May and Barnum in Winston-Salem, Tyler Danish and then Sanchez/Semien/Saladino/Davidson in Charlotte. Angel Sanchez is the 2nd most exciting pitcher at the moment, after Tyler. Beck sucks. Ravelo/Smith in Birmingham

9 for his last 100 (7 singles and 2 homers) with 6 walks and 47 strikeouts. That's good for a line of .090/.148/.150 Internal options: - Nieto hitting .242/.319/.306 on the year, wRC+ of 76. (.405 BABIP and a K rate of 35.7%) - Phegley hitting .246/.320/.481 at AAA, wRC+ of 117 (plus question marks on defence) - Smith hitting .305/.387/.473 at AA, wRC+ of 143 You could argue that with not wanting Nieto to be overwhelmed plus the question marks on Phegley's D that everyone should stay put for now without someone coming in, but I wouldn't shed any tears with a Flowers DFA and everyone else moving up a level. It'd at least give them more of a chance to see what they have in Nieto/Phegley before the trade deadline, where presumably they'd love to bring in a catcher. It'd also mean the best catching prospect in the system was at a more age-appropriate level.

Peripherals catching him up

Tylol Flolers

Danks's ERA down to 3.97. Hopefully he can keep it in the 3s until the deadline and someone ignores all the other stuff and bites.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 05:51 PM) De Aza get out of the way! Red Sox announcers seemed to think De Aza was right as Eaton had Drew played (too) deep and the ball was slicing back towards De Aza, and Eaton looked like he mightn't have got there.

Tyler hitting .096 since May 26th is that good

That first inning was very Danks 2014

Ravelo 2-3 with a double and a walk

Serious question, where does Tyler's current streak rank in White Sox history in terms of bad hitting? There can't have been many worse.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 04:04 PM) Mariners leading the AL in ERA, unless the A's passed them last night. It's going to be a franchise-altering trade if Hahn deals Viciedo/Ramirez to them. Have to get prospects back who realize their potential, as that's our only remaining significant trade chip. Not sure they'd take Ramirez. Seems they're very reluctant to add any salary. Which is lunacy after the Cano deal imo.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) This is the guy everyone wanted to pitch to Hamilton. Lol. Thing is, he's not really a LOOGY, didn't really have all that dramatic splits at AAA iirc. He's a starter, or if in the pen, a long reliever.

Good baserunning all around there

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 01:48 PM) That's pretty good. I mean if you swap the 1s for 4s, it's actually pretty elite

Tyler is 10 for his last 97 (8 singles and 2 homers) with 6 walks and 45 strikeouts. .103/.164/.165

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) Holy crap it stayed in the park. Flicking between the hurling and this, was it nearly out?

The dude gets better every year. A true number 2.

Q is so good

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 11:06 AM) BTW only 9 pitchers in all of baseball have more quality starts than John Danks. He's on pace for a 3 WAR. Everyone this offseason was talking about how every 1 point of WAR was worth 5M, so he's on pace to earn every bit of that 14M he's making this year. That's bWAR, fWAR is better and has him on pace for about 1.5.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 09:32 AM) But his K rates have been in the 35-40% rate, haven't they? It doesn't matter if you hit 40+ homers, but if he's in the 25-30 range, it will become more of an issue unless he compensates for it with a bunch of walks as well. Even if he puts up Abreu-esque numbers, that still doesn't solve their pitching problems anymore than Jose being on the White Sox can fix the 4 and 5 spots in the rotation. No? 22-27 range. And he has been walking a lot. And enormous power. He's put up a wRC+ of 209 or better at every extended stop. That's utterly insane.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 09:03 AM) Assuming he signs, would people trade Rodon for Russell or Bryant straight up? Yes. Particularly Bryant. As weird as it sounds, people are sleeping on Bryant. He's going to be an absolute superstar.

By the way, whilst we're on Brandon Maurer, he's been really excellent since going to the bullpen. Had one outing in AAA where he K'd 9 in 3.1 IP. I'd rather someone back who could potentially start but he could be a Dellin Betances-lite.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 07:41 AM) Umm, have you read this thread or countless others? Half this site would like to dump Viciedo for scraps. I don't think anybody said scraps. I believe "Maurer is reasonable for him" was about the lowest Viciedo was rated.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 07:53 AM) Danks has posted a better wRC+ over his last 600 AAA plate appearances than Taylor, is the better defender and probably the better baserunner. What makes you think Taylor is next in line exactly? Because he was a failed Baseball America top 100 prospect? The fact that Danks has more major league plate appearances despite never being a highly regarded prospect is pretty telling IMO. No one up until now has wanted to give Taylor an extended look. What is it about him that you think will cause Hahn to be that guy? Danks has also seen more of the majors and we know more about what he can produce at that level. As you said, Danks isn't gonna be (a starting) part of a winning White Sox team, and we know that. Hahn saw enough in Taylor to give up a reasonable piece for him, and that wasn't just to be AAA filler.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 03:40 AM) He has enough speed to play the outfielder every day. Does he though? He's pretty much played his way out of the position for me, and I would put him in the bottom tenth in terms of speedy outfielders. Putting most 2B, 3B and SS ahead of him, that would make him comfortably below average speed. QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 06:27 AM) The reality of the situation for us is if we trade Viciedo now, we enter next offseason with holes at LF & DH and a huge lack of power in our lineup. Given some of our other needs, primary C & SP, that's a pretty large to-do-list for just one offseason and with no solid internal options to fill them. What's it going to cost us in terms of cash and prospects to fill all these holes from the outside? Will there be other options even available? People can hate all they want on Viciedo and be eager to move him, but when Jordan Danks is the next best option we have in-house, things can get a lot uglier. Having said this, I'm sure the stats-oriented posters will say Danks' superior defense and base-running would make him a more valuable player, which I would find laughable. At some point, certain posters have to accept the fact that baseball is not context-neutral and teams with the highest WARs aren't awarded automatic playoff spots. A team playing 81 games at the Cell with Conor at 3B, Garcia in RF, & Danks in LF (or someone like him) isn't going to do well offensively over the course of a season. It's critical to have some balance in your lineup and having those three guys at power-based positions would be a disaster IMO. Danks isn't the next man up. Michael Taylor is.