Bananarchy

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 12:58 AM) This Chris Sale being a cancer talk is really wearing me out. The cutting up of the uniforms was no big deal, folks. It just wasn't. Who gives a f*** that he cut up uniforms, ugly embarrassing uniforms he DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE pitching in. People get on pitchers for needing Tommy John surgery. I don't want Sale out there pitching when he's uncomfortable. He warned the White Sox he wasn't gonna pitch in the uniform and the front office didn't care. So he tore up the unis. Good for him. What else did he do that was bad?? Not wanting to come out of games and yelling at Ventura a few times? There are a handful of pitchers in baseball who won't come out: Verlander, cough cough; others. Who gives a f*** if he yelled at Robin? Again Chris was right. Robin was the second worse manager in Sox history behind Bevington. he was an utter embarrassment. So why hate on Chris Sale??? These transgressions have been overblown. I give a f*** that he destroyed their uniforms. I don't want a petulant child on my team. He's an asshat and now he's gone.

Cubs fans are getting stupid now, lamenting that they are giving away a guy like Soler. Where they hell was he going to play on that Cubs roster?

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 08:26 PM) Bannertalk is back When re you going white box sig?

Just go with Thomas, Fox, and McDowell. Problem solved

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:24 PM) Big time steal for Epstein then if health checks out. That would totally suck for us.

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:23 PM) Which makes sense and is a direction I agree with. But I want to see it actually happen. The Front Office has built up very little trust with the fans. Agreed. Just be terrible already and get it over with. I'm excited about Moncada and I'm looking forward to being excited about more pieces in the farm system.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:19 PM) I'm going to guess he goes with #11. Isn't that retired? I know Aparicio let Vizquel use it, but it's still retired. Also, I doubt there's a press conference. These are prospects.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:11 PM) He's s really good player. ISO rose, K% went down, solid D, solid OBP...wish we had that problem He's a defensive negative.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:03 PM) I'm honestly gonna be sadder to see Q go. God speed, Flying Serpent. The whole thing has a "peeling off a bandage" type feel. I wish they could just move everybody and rebuild already, but Rick is wise to work the field to get the best returns. From a fan standpoint, I agree it's pretty sad. Then I think about how bad some of these "win now" teams have been.

Loved Sale on the mound, but his locker room antics and the whole Duck Dynasty attitude was, at best, unlikeable.

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:57 PM) We aren't there yet. This is a great start, and all indications is this is just the first domino to fall. BUT........lets see what else happens. If Sale is the only major piece moved this winter, the direction will still be muddy. Rick made it sound like this would be a slow rebuild and our guys are in no hurry to move players. They're waiting for the right packages.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) Understandable, what's to like about a CF with good defense and a .845 OPS? I don't know what it is about it. Maybe it's the fact he winds up in trade rumors. He's a decent player (6ish WAR in 2 seasons)

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:36 PM) One of my favorite players. So happy for him that he's back to playing really well and scoring. Mine, too. I honestly thought he was done last season.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 2m2 minutes ago Aroldis Chapman may get his $100 million deal after all. One team says he has offer of $92 million. That's insane. The one year we have two aces to move, the value of a closer skyrockets.

It's so refreshing to be Mr. Positive here, now. Look, Moncada is going to give you some great moments. He's the best prospect in baseball. Can he flop? Sure. But there's a good chance he's going to be a very good piece for years to come.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 08:45 PM) Yeah, go ahead and turn that crown back in, we might need it. I'll be honest, I'm really happy with the White Sox doing this. It simply indicates the FO knows the current tack was unacceptable.

QUOTE (Soxnfins @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 07:57 PM) Another name that could be targeted is Joc Pederson. Keep a look out for him. That's old regime stuff. Not a JP fan.

Hossa's performance has been astounding this season.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 07:35 PM) We got a few good prospects but this deal falls far short of what a good GM could get for Sale. They better be sure Moncada is a future all-star or this is one of the worst trades in franchise history. And I'm the board troll.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 05:14 PM) It definitely leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I wanted nothing more than to see Sale win in the playoffs or win his Cy Young in a White Sox uniform. Never thought I'd see the day the Sox trade the best starting pitcher to ever wear the uniform in order to fix years of ineptitude by the front office. Hears hoping Moncada and Kopech hit their ceilings. Bring on the firesale. The bold is your first problem. To hell with that moron winning a Cy Young in Chicago. All that matters is this We needed a lot more than Chris Sale for that.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 05:10 PM) What is Moncada's jersey number going to be with the Sox? Press conference scheduled, or is he out of the country? You would think with season ticket renewals going out that they'd try to milk Moncada for all he's worth, along with Anderson and Rodon. Yeah, and after 2018, they'll have a much better idea where they at in the rebuilding process. Serious players...not for Harper and Machado, but the next tier is certainly a possibility. I would assume he won't have a number for a long time if he's not playing this year. At least we won't know for sure until he gets called up.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 05:08 PM) The big free agent class is two years from now. Even if we shoot for 2020 instead of 2019 it could still make sense to be players in that class because any we sign will likely be here for several years. Should be interesting what happens with contracts by then. Before this CBA, I would expect some insane $ numbers.

Joe Sheehan is enamored with this package for Sale.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 05:03 PM) If holding him out for two months, even if ready, keeps us from the playoffs this year, then apparently Rick is some sort of wizard. No worries. Moncada won't be the difference between the playoffs or not this season.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:54 PM) We will be at the absolute bottom of our rebuild or close to it in terms of fan support. I would say no pretty clearly on that idea, at least at the mega star level. At least Rick has been clear that this IS a rebuild. That's something Sox fans have seen on the other side of town. If we're going to be bad, let's be bad and rebuild, not be bad and go for it every year.