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QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 09:49 PM) Once again tell this to the whole league. I'm actually pretty impressed the sox managed 2 runs off of him considering the strike zone he had to work with. No doubt Santana is one of the American League's best pitchers. I'm merely worried this tipping-hat mentality is felt among players as well. Such as: "Santana is good. Let's move on and forget about it." Then when September rolls around and we need a win, but are disgraced with a 12K performance, we're left clueless because noone bothered to assemble some plan against Santana. I hope our players approach him different their next start. Although I agree collecting 7 hits off Santana over 7 innings is impressive. However, how was Iguchi able to hit twice off Johan, despite never seeing him prior to today? Some of our players need to ask him his approach and follow it.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 09:20 PM) Tip your cap, go to Cleveland, and beat the s*** out of Millwood. Personally, I'm tired of tipping my hat for Santana. Eventually you have to develop a plan against him. Such as not swinging at the first two pitches; regardless of what is thrown. When you foul off Santanas changeup/fastball, its guages which pitch you're sitting on. In addition, nearly all his strikeouts are swinging. Usually because of a changeup in the dirt of a high fastball. This needs to be addressed. Anything is appropriate to battle Santana. I'm simply tired of admiring him. These players have to learn how to win against Santana, because he's not going anywhere anytime soon.

This game was typical of so many ESPN telecasts. Our team picks the right time to be overwhelmed by pitching and commit several costly miscues/errors. Santana is unbelievable, but there were still situations we should have scratched across runs. Konerko, in particular, completely altered his batting stance to only look foolish against Santana. As I said in the chat, we're probably going to battle Santana several more games. Study tape or else every game will follow a similar path. Start off by working counts; resist swinging at first pitches.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 05:56 PM) Wow is there like an ESPN rule you can not pick/praise/mention the White Sox? I realize we purposely look for ESPN omissions of our club, but sometimes its ridiculous. Second game of the season Kruk was practically whining during the highlights of our 9th inning comeback off Wickman. Heard him say "Cheap hits.." while Reynolds was narrating two, 400ft+ homeruns. :banghead Let's win tonight and force their network to compliment us.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 01:16 AM) Anyone else wish they would have seen the bittersweet look on Qwerty's face when Timo Perez hit the homer? This one was nice tonight. When Judith gave up the three run homer I htought I've seen this game many times over the last five years. The sox proved me wrong by keeping in the fight. Still, it's key to contain the deisre to puff our chests out because beating Minnesota hasn't been a problem the last few years in general. It's been beating them in August and September and that will still be the key. I couldn't describe Qwerty's facial expression, but I can tell you him and Cheat were awfully quiet in the chatroom once Timo homered.

Why don't the Twins re-plug Joe Mays in the rotation? He's healthy, I assume, since he pitched in relief two nights ago.

I don't care how Minnesota reasons with these losses. If our club defeats Santana tomorrow even their club can't possibly act indifferent. Or continue this "It's just April" reasoning. Our 3rd/5th starters outdueled their 2nd/4th starters. If Buehlre pitches on par with Santana, whom I'm expecting to be dominant, our hitters would have battled the best Minnesota has. Rincon and Nathan will undoubtedly pitch if needed, so any victory earned will be hard fought and well earned. However, let's remember several members of our lineup haven't seen Cy Santana. Iguchi will be overwhelmed, and you can likely forget about any production from our new LH hitters, Podsednik and Pierzsyski. Someone needs to step up, or atleast resist swinging at his changeup in the dirt. It can't possibly be that difficult

Watching LaTroy pitch last inning, it's obvious he has absolutely no confidence in throwing his breaking ball. Nothing but fastballs all inning. And while he has great location, the shadows creeping over homeplate would have assisted any breaking pitch thrown in vicinity of the plate.

Can someone interesting in compiling statistics research how many pitchers with 30+ saves gave up three home runs in one inning. Then, how many below 30 (minimum 20) gave up three home runs in one inning.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) Cotts was shaky as hell, remember? He put runners at the corners. Politte would have had to face Hafner, a power lefty. Where were you, man? Stuck in class. Would have accessed the chat room but I'm unable to load JAVA. Glancing over the box score, which was my only indication of how well Cotts pitched, it didn't appear he did poorly. Anways, what's the difference? Sabermetric fans do this as well.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 04:09 PM) The funny thing is that everyone ripping on Ozzie for using too many relievers never said a word about it when he made the pitching changes. The fact is that Shingo blew the game. How was Ozzie supposed to forsee that happening? Hindsight is a great thing, isn't it? He couldn't have known. But I don't blame Ozzie for failing to remove Shingo I'm wondering why Ozzie used Cotts/Marte/Politte in specialist roles, each recording only one out. Marte is more valuable than a specialist, Cotts should pitch more than one inning, whereas Politte (depending LH/RH batter) could have defintely pitched deeper considering this is his first outting. Because of this, the bullpen was stretched out and Vizcaino was left to rot.

Whether of not you consider this an aberration, Shingo serving up 3 home runs in one inning is unacceptable from a closer. Does anyone believe Joe Nathan would serve up three home runs, or Juan Rincon would surrender 6 runs? It disappoints me our teams supposed strength failed today. I'm not jumping off the bridge, however, I'm not discounting these pitiful pitching performances today. Ozzie deserves the blame as well for terrible managing.

LOL, what the hell happened? Would anyone mind recapping how the Sox let a three-run lead escape them? I'm too lazy to browse through 10 pages of whining.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 09:33 AM) This is all of a feather with these, 'no selfish players THIS year' and 'winning attitude THIS year' stories. All this ex-post rationalization. I'm just tired of reading about it. They lost not b/c of any clubhouse conflict, they lost because they couldn't get people out. I agree with this assessment. Hearing Rowand discuss selflessness on the field one day into the season is a little premature. This is why listening to Hawk can become unbearable. Last year it was "Ozzieball" hype for nearly two straight months, and now he'll compliment Ozzie's "smallball" philosophy until our team falls apart. If Hawk says "Ozzie finally has a club assembled which fits his style" again, I'm going to smash my TV with a sledgehammer.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) Ah the smear campaigns continue. I realize htis is Cowley and not the Sox but will the Sox writers, organization and fans just get over it? What year is it? I thought it was 2005 but you wouldn't know it by what you read. What smear campaign? Are we suddendly adopting a Mark McGwire policy of refusing to talk about the past? No need to overanalyze a simple article suggesting Lee's HBP meant more than once believed. Cowley's prior article questioning Lee's attitude may have been, but not this particular piece.

I'm glad Joe Cowley reported this. He's usually on top of these stories. Following Lee's HBP I suspected, as did SS2k4 and several others, it was too coincidental to be "merely an inside pitch that slipped." Marte's immediate reaction did nothing to convince me otherwise.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 4, 2005 -> 10:09 AM) Hmm, Border Patrol Agents and Mexican Law enforcement get confused as to where the border is. No place for amateurs. Nuke, how helpful would vigilantes be to your efforts as a soldier? Think Border Patrol wants that same help? As I understood the article, the only people confused were Mexican Law Enforcement agents. It's not a question of whether Border Patrols agents are doing their job, while there may be merit in that assumption, but the low amount of agents employed to guard 1,000 miles of Mexican/American border. Honestly, who cares what these Border Patrolmen believe of Minutemen. If my town felt police were not fulfillihg their duties, and formed a subsequent watch-group, I'd expect our force to feel insulted. As many of these Patrol agents likely feel. Ultimately, if progress is made in curbing illegal immigration, which statistics will either validate or disprove, then their work is justified. BTW, here's an article posted in the Sun-Times. http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-border04.html

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 3, 2005 -> 10:16 PM) You remember last season? Mercy. Soxtalk and WSI both got f***ed up because people wanted to go online and type, "f***ING MARTE! f***ING KOCH!". :banghead http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16883&hl= Great read. I nominated it for "Thread of the Year" during the 2004 Soxtalk Awards. Perhaps worse than the actual loss was the off day afterwards. You just wanted the team to take the field and shake off the horrendous bullpen collapse.

Baseball Tonight is pleasuring themselves with past Boston/New York video clips explaining their rivalry. It's expected, since they are the most popular MLB teams; but I'm already tired of it. I'm pulling for the Yankees, tonight. Randy Johnson should mow through Boston's lineup. Veritek, Ortiz; two of Boston's three power sources, will likely be shut down. Oh, and I see ONE plug for Jimmy Fallon's new Red Sox movie.

Texsox, you've continually harped this issue of Minuteman unfairly profiling Mexicans as illegals, but are you aware of the area these people are patrolling? Why exactly should anyone believe a legal, law abiding Mexican-American would cross a mountainous region in the middle of the night? Regions patrolled by Minuteman are not supermarket squares or local McDonalds. These areas are practically deserted, hence the reason illegals look to cross them into our country.

What happened tonight was a quirk which occured frequently last season. Other team scores; we score next inning. Again, other team scores; we score next inning, but fall short one run. Jackson and Koch were good at destroying rallies by failing to shut down the opposition following a 'crooked number.' Ed Farmer pointed this out last season, and he was absolutely correct. It honestly tears me apart when our team battles back, albeit 4 runs down, only to have the momentum immediately drained.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 12:26 AM) But, for now, some do come here illegally and make very positive contributions to this country while embodying the American spirit... How about a case-by-case basis in which those with clean records and steady jobs get to stay? I prefer that a lot more than just kicking their asses out of the country... How exactly do they embody the American spirit, again? Describe it to me without citing the writing on the Statue of Liberty. We have naturalization services in place to transform these illegals into legals. Not difficult to follow.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 05:58 PM) Hey just a random question, does comcast have abeloutely 0 sound right now for everyone else? Sounds out up here as well. Now I can't hear Dan Jiggets dissect the Illini game!

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 05:31 PM) I don't know if its just me but with CSN the sound is really low compared to most other stations. No, WCIU is good for muffled commentary from Hawk/DJ.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 03:27 PM) I know one thing. Oakland will always crush us no matter who is pitching or who is hitting. ST, regular season, it doesn't matter. They own us. I don't recall many games against Oakland which were blowout wins, or where our pitching simply dominated. Whether our bullpen surrenders the lead, offense is shutdown, or some fluke occurence (Magg losing flyball in fog two seasons ago) there's always been a reoccuring theme of futility. Our troubles against Oakland disgust me becuase I take personal pleasure in watching Oakland lose, and Billy Bean supporters covering his ass. Nothing would satisfy me more than Oakland losing 90+ games this year. However, I'll probably hear" this is a rebuilding effort" in response.