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Hahn went out there and made a ton of dynamite moves. The moves they were making all pointed towards going all in. This team can contend for the division now IMO. I just feel he is ONE more move away from making this team a world series contender. Reinsdorf has let him go all out so far. IMO he needs to let Hahn make one more big signing. Reinsdorf is getting old. The chairman wants another title. He needs to give Hahn the signal for 15 to 20mil more to spend. I just feel if they have done this much so far, they really need to make one more move and contend for this title. I hate saying i feel disappointed after all these moves they made, but it will be a major disappointment if they just miss the division title or wild card. Missing out on Donaldson is brutally painful. That would have been the move to make.. An upgrade at 3B, 2B, or SP would be what pushes this team over the edge.

Do you think there is any future in the organization for him? Obviously, he may not want to. I think he would be a great clubhouse presence to have around. The scott carroll story is one of the coolest things I've heard a player do. Dunn is the epitome of class. I think the sox owe him a spot in the organization if he wants in. Sure, he didn't live up to the contract, but he was always classy and you knew it weighed in him. I doubt his number gets placed on the outfield wall, but a coaching position I can see

Only way Ozzie gets a job with this club is if it entails carrying a mop around and having to clean Mr. Kenny Williams' s***ter every day. A very sloppy Kenny Williams, I would presume.

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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 20, 2014 -> 10:14 AM) I think the #4 prospect, #25 prospect, and #83 prospect in baseball going in to 2014 is a pretty damn good start. Are we going into the 2014 season still? No, we aren't. there is a season worth of data you missed. Baez looked completely overmatched at the MLB level. He has always been an overrated prospect IMO. Alcantara didn't impress me too much either.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 10:30 AM) I think you're overstating a little bit here. I wouldn't go so far as the team being "fueled" by roiders... and I really do believe if the Sox were to win a World Series next year, not many people would point at the Melky signing and say "They're cheaters". It's in his past now. You will want to cheer for Melky in the #2 spot because he should be seeing a lot of good pitches to hit with Abreu right behind him... and by all accounts, the guy knows how to hit. Another way to look at it is, had the Blue Jays won the World Series, would you be calling them cheaters and fueled by steroids? That's almost impossible to have happen. I know I wouldn't have. Let me ask you something. Do you view the Ortiz-Manny championship teams with an asterik next to it? I sure as hell do. I don't like that the Sox #2 hitter and a their #2/3 pitcher are certified cheaters. I don't want any possible championship run tainted by in asterisk, in my mind or in the public's mind.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 10:53 AM) meh...no. I think you're probably one of the very few that views the Chicago White Sox as a bunch of "roiders". Lemme ask you a question?...are you a Bulls fan? Yes, I am a Bulls fan. I don't care if Rose cheated on a test either.

I'm glad some people feel the same way I do. I just can't morally bring myself to support this team. I have zero respect for roiders. Signing a third roider to this team? I don't want this to be thought of like the Bosox teams that were fueled by steroids. Maybe it will get better if this team is winning, but I just can't bring myself to cheer for Melky.

I just can't bring myself to support this team fully. Sure, they will be good, but it is full of cheaters. Melky, Q, Flowers. Signing Melky was the final straw for me. I can't support a team full of roiders. I hate the Bosox championship teams with Manny and ortiz. Its going to be tough to support them because I can't stand cheaters in baseball, and I know a championship will be marked by an asterik if they DO win it. Anybody else feel that same way as me? I wish Melky was not signed. Leaves a poor taste in my mouth.

Dunn may have had some poor seasons with the sox, but he remains one of my favorite white sox players. He is up there with Thome when it comes to clubhouse guys. I hope the sox offer him a position within the organization in the future. Doubt he will take it, but I'm hoping for it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 13, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Great timing. http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/prospe...steal-white-sox The laziness of the Cleuluis Rondon section is just awful. "The White Sox also acquired glove-first infielder Cleuluis Rondon from Boston in the trade. Rondon entered the season as the No. 26 prospect in the system and is good enough defensively to be a shortstop — if his bat ever catches up." He is good enough defensively to be a shortstop. Really? That's all the writer could come up with? Do some research on the other prospects of the trade. Cleuluis is another prospect with great potential. His bat was good enough while in A+. That defense at shortstop is so valuable. He is known for his plus-plus defense at shortstop. Embarrassing on Dan Hayes part. Stating " He is good enough defensively to be a shortstop" is selling him very short.

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The hand on the statue is way too big

Did anybody expect Greg's grading system to not be flawed?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 10:09 PM) I'm really concerned about the future. How do you revamp a bullpen and an entire defense? 2015 looks like another 90 loss season barring an offseason miracle. So you're assuming they get worse than they are this year? explanation please.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 18, 2014 -> 10:24 PM) Okay anybody who has seen any of my posts know I feel the loss of Reed had a horrific effect on this team. He couldn't close so we trotted out a number of closers who basically all failed. Some had a run of a couple good saves, then failed. Davidson at this point is a prospect who appears to be a non-prospect. He has his work cut out. I give the trade a D to D- on Hahn's resume. Why? This line from the above-mentioned article ... " As of today, 9/18/14, Reed holds a 4.13 ERA with 31 saves and an 86.1% save conversion rate." That, folks is a damn fine conversion rate and damn fine number of saves. I'd have preferred him closing for the Sox and finding two decent set up men from the number of lousy pitchers in our organization. Go ahead and fry me now. p.s. You all may hate me and/or my posts but at least you must admit I am consistent in my opinions. Yes, they are consistent. They are consistently full of opinions based on emotion and use of archaic stats. This post is an example of using outdated stats. People gave up on trying to explain advanced stats to you.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 18, 2014 -> 04:39 PM) I'm embarrassed to be a Sox fan sometimes because of the negative commends surrounding Konerko. It's like a Bears fan blasting Butkus; it's like a Cub fan blasting Ernie Banks; it's like a Blackhawk fan bashing Bobby Hull. Paul Konerko is everything right with White Sox baseball, case closed. Also as far as the people who care about draft picks, I told some huge baseball fans about people on this message board wanting the Sox to lose to improve draft stock and ALL OF THEM said, "In baseball? They care about the draft?" They laughed heartily. Would you rather lie and people say he hasn't sucked this season?

What do you think? I think the Sox owe it to him. He has been pure class during his tenure with the Sox. Liked by everybody, and just a great guy. Reminds me of Thome. I hope Jerry gives him a job in the future, if he wants one.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 10:08 PM) Pulling for Arizona to win. Tonight's loss will allow us to gain on like 3 teams. A high pick would be very niceee.

As far as publications, I think you guys are the most knowledgeable group of people out there when it comes to white sox prospects and the organization as a whole. you know the white sox, and you know baseball. I think this place should be the go to for any diehard sox fan.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 2, 2014 -> 10:04 PM) can you pls remind me, why? cus he new rodon was finish for year

I think you all owe peavy44 an apology

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 01:01 PM) If you do not dump the salary of Beckham, Danks, or Dunn, you really failed the organization. And I'm your biggest fan. Sincerely, AtC Hey Andy the Clown, Sorry for replying so late. I've been meaning to get to your Soxtalk thread, but I have been quiet busy lately. I managed to dump the salaries of Beckham and Dunn for you. Enjoy the rest of your summer. Your buddy,

I hope tank goes. Why hasn't Michael Taylor ever gotten an extensive chance in the majors? He has put up pretty decent numbers. I'd like to see what he does for the sox. Dude can get on base well.

Viciedo next?