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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 12:42 PM) I see him as a back end starter. 180-200 IP, but more in the 4.25 to 4.75 range. Still better than Samardzija, at a fraction of the cost!

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 12:20 PM) Some of you are delusional. Aybar has consistently been an above average shortstop and now you are saying Saladino can be as good. Please. Saladino is most likely a solid utility guy but to take the leap to being better then Aybar, one of the better shortstops in the game, come on. I am not saying we should trade for Aybar, but I'm also not delusional to think that Saladino is better. I think Aybar is a good player and would make the Sox a better team, that said, he's older and I am not sure strategically where the Sox are headed this year (contention vs. rebuild). I think Saladino can put up a 639 OPS with better defense at SS than Aybar

What are the chances Cesaro upsets Reigns on RAW?

QUOTE (bjm676 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 11:07 AM) I'd love for the Sox to trade for Aybar now. 1 year stopgap until if/when Anderson is ready. Rather have Saladino or resign Alexei then trade assets for Aybar.

QUOTE (Scubadentist @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 11:08 AM) OK, Rasmus just accepted the QO and is the first to ever do so.... I'm panicking at the thought that Samardjiza is going to accept it too!! What time today does he have until to accept it?... 5pm eastern time

Today is the deadline whether or not Samardzija accepts the QO.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 11:21 PM) And that's exactly what the idea that 1 or 2 big FAs or trades will improve this team 10-15 games is. I'm trying to figure out how the Reds, loaded with heroes, suck so badly. Anyway, if you want to sign one of your hero outfielders, find away to move Dunn out, Melky can DH, and shift Eaton to LF and put Trayce in CF. That way we'd have a hero + excellent OF defense. The 2nd half of the season they started 5 rookie pitchers. What is your off season plan again?

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:40 PM) i bet hou is fuming over Rasmus accepting the QO. Why? Only a one year deal. He was an essential player during the playoffs. He'll be starting in LF next year probably.

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) 2 big league players with huge potential and a top 50 prospect. That article was intriguing due to the Red Sox link, as Bogaerts/Swihart seems to be a fantastic starting point. Boegarts, Swihart, and Moncada?

http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/dealin...-sox-turnaround

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) Damn, I would've given the Braves Montas, Adams, Danish, and someone else for him. Yeah that's ugly. No way.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) Seems like the Braves did really, really well. That's a big haul for an all-glove player. Eh. Newcomb is really the only really good piece. Ellis is their #2 prospect, but he had a 3.92 ERA in AA at the age of 23.

QUOTE (staxx @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) Wow. I expected it would take more. Buyer's market possibly.

Angels literally have 0 position players that are on the cusp of the majors. I could see one or two of Heaney, Skaggs, and Newcomb moving in the deal.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:40 PM) Simmons traded to the Angels. Newcomb has to be involved.

Updated mock Extend Qualifying Offer to SP Jeff Samardzija- he declines, Sox get a comp pick Decline option on SS Alexei Ramirez Resign: RP Matt Albers 1 year/2 million Sign via Free Agency: SP Trevor Cahill 1 year/5 million Trades: White Sox trade CF Trayce Thompson and SP Erik Johnson to the Marlins for OF Marcell Ozuna and UTIL Derek Dietrich White Sox trade 2B Micah Johnson and 1B/3B Nick Delmonico to the Padres for C Derek Norris White Sox trade RF Avi Garcia, SP Frankie Montas, and 3B Trey Michalczewski to the Reds for Todd Frazier Rotation/Bullpen: SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Trevor Cahill SP John Danks (Until Fulmer is ready) RP Scott Carroll/Jacob Turner RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Jake Petricka RP Zach Duke (L) RP Matt Albers RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Lineup: CF Adam Eaton (L) 2B Derek Dietrich (L) 1B Jose Abreu 3B Todd Frazier LF Melky Cabrera (S) RF Marcell Ozuna DH Adam LaRoche (L) C Derek Norris SS Tyler Saladino (Bridge until Anderson is ready) Bench: OF J.B Shuck C Tyler Flowers 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez 1B/3B Mike Olt Thoughts? A lot of trades and no major signings. We trade some prospects to get some core pieces (imo), yet we get 3 picks in the top 50-55 for the next draft.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:32 PM) But if they are going to be selling off assets and rebuilding, why would the take on $13M of a dead money and take up a position from a young player who could use the experience? I am willing to bet they would rather just send over $10M than take LaRoche and his $13M. Unless they truly think they can flip him in July for a couple of prospects. Well, I just looked at their prospect list, and they don't have 1B prospects unless they use Willin Rosario or 28 year old Ben Paulson there.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:28 PM) I don't think the Rockies are in win-now mode. Unless they decide to play a rookie at first, LaRoche for one year isn't bad. Exactly my point.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) I would do that, but I don't see what interest they would have in LaRoche, other than just not having to send over any money in the deal I guess. They do have a hole at 1B. LaRoche has had more success in the NL, and on a 1 year deal, if he does well, they can flip him at the deadline. And like you said, it balances out the money.

FA prediction: SS Alexei Ramirez 1 year/7 million with club option Trade prediction: SP Erik Johnson and CF Trayce Thompson to the Marlins CF Marcell Ozuna and UTIL Derek Dietrich

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) I look at it this way...... if Cargo was a Free Agent right now, would you offer him 2 yrs/$37M deal? If not, then you certainly don't sign that deal AND give up players to the Rockies to do it. If you would do that deal, then what players would you be willing to relinquish to sign that FA deal? Or maybe you use the idea that the Rockies would kick in some cash, maybe $10M. Would you sign him for 2 yrs/$27M? If yes, then what players would you be willing to give up to secure that contract. That's basically how I'm trying to rationalize a trade for Cargo, and can pretty much be applied to any trade with significant contract coming back. LaRoche, Montas, Micah Johnson, and Beck for CarGo and Lemahieu?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) I really believe the Sox are going to look to make a big splash with a trade, and then use free agency to fill holes at a much lower level. With rumors coming out of not spending big money in free agency, I agree with you that this off season could trade filled for our beloved.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 01:08 PM) I think the Marlins make a lot of sense for Erik Johnson. Marcell Ozuna, Derek Dietrich and Martin Prado could all be players of interest for varying prices. I was thinking of the Marlins as well. Dietrich and Ozuna are good names that I think EJ can fetch. I like Dietrich because I see him as a Ben Zobrist type. Proposal: Erik Johnson and Trayce Thompson for Marcell Ozuna and Derek Dietrich Fair? Who says no?

Don't want Cespedes, but this tells me that they might of given up on Avi.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 10:29 AM) Sox have never been afraid of moving an arm they want to get out in front of. McCarthy and Santiago both come to mind. Johnson was incredible in AAA though so maybe they can sell him off that. His stats look very good but they really don't do him he justice. He was the best pitcher on a rate basis as well as on a prolific basis. Knowing how Hahn operates, Johnson was getting scouted when he pitched in September. Given the spontaneity of pitchers (relative to hitters), I would prefer the Sox move pitching for young bats and sign lower tier SP(s) like Y2Jimmy0 suggested. The offensive landscape in FA lacks fits outside of the top guys who's price rules them out. It's interesting, the Sox have never really bought pitching ever. Obviously they excel in making pitching, but they've never even signed even a mid tier SP since who? Jamie Navarro? They've filled out the rotation with scrap heap guys like Paulino, Humber, old Freddy, old Colon and if you want to go back far enough Esteban Loaiza. Sox are probably looking at E. Johnson, Quintana, Montas and maybe Fulmer as the guys to potentially move to fix the offense. It seems like they want to move Johnson, and they've never been that outwardly confident about him, but past him, I think whoever they move is dependent on return more than the individual pitcher but I hear the Sox are considering anything and everything. There's an argument that all four guys could be at the height of their value too. Johnson was just best pitcher in AAA. Quintana is 9th in fWAR since 2012. Montas coming off the last season he'll have a Mid tier options: Fister Latos Rich Hill Brett Anderson Cliff Lee Scrap heap types: Beachy Cahill Bud Norris Who do you think EJ can fetch in trade for a bat? I'd be interested in Latos, Cahill, and Beachy as potential 5th starters if EJ is traded. QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) I'd be hesitant to trade with Atlanta. They've been getting everybody in every trade. Hart joined that org and quickly improved it across the board in several trades. It seems like they might have even taken Friedman for one at the deadline. I love what he's doing there. I agree. Hart has turned that organization around. In a couple years, they'll be a top that division.