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I believe it's a matter of whether the players are in the MLBPA or basically on the 40 man roster. So Sox could trade an A baller to Miami for an A baller but they can't trade Kimbrel for Segura. That's my understanding and I could be wrong. There pretty limited info available on this scenario.

Yup. Says all you need to know about that guy. I will avoid responding to his posts as there is no point. Just says a bunch of stuff he doesn't understand, refuses to clarify or provide support, then calls names and makes ridiculous demands instead of substantiating his posts. As long as some kid doesn't read his posts and think that he is in any way accurate. More access to information than ever and you still have people peddling made up garbage that anyone can quickly google and see is wrong.

Just explain how owners have negative tax rates. No changing the subject or name calling. Just substantiate the stuff that you’re pretty clearly making up. Use a source for released tax records. Use a source for how you would calculate a negative tax rate for a billionaire. Do anything else and it’s clear you’re making stuff up.

There’s a reason you didn’t respond to any of my specific points. You’re full of it and need to get personal to distract from the lack of actual knowledge or understanding about the subject. We get it, you hate the rich and that you’re a great person. Blah blah blah. You add nothing to the conversation speaking so arrogantly about a subject you don’t understand. You don’t need to turn everything about business and wealth into one of your platitudes.

1.) SHH is not exaggerating he is speaking on something he clearly doesn't understand. You don't need to defend him before he can respond, he can speak for himself too. 2.) I never made that proclamation and I can speak for myself. Never talked about fairness. Never talked about equality. You don't need to make stuff up to elevate yourself in a conversation you jumped in to derail. SSH and I can speak for ourselves, we don't need you to convolute the conversation and enlighten us by changing the discussion to speak on topics that are outside of the scope of the conversation being had.

You ignored my response to your post last time so I am not expecting much here, but you really do not understand any of this in a way where you should be speaking about it so assuredly. The players and owners are subject to the same tax code. They have all the same deductions and exemptions available to them just like you or I. For instance, can you explain or source how you came to the conclusion that some billionaires have a "net negative tax rate?" How about "differed capital gains rates"? Are you under the assumption that only the owners are allowed to use 1031 exchanges? Or do you just not understand what capital gains are in general? Welfare subsidies in the form of taxpayer funded stadiums is more of a representation issue than it is an owner issue. You can actually help fix that issue by voting out the politicians that use taxpayer funds for these types of private projects with little-to-no social benefit. How do you determine that the appreciation of sports franchise is tax free growth? If your parents had a house for 40 years and it appreciated 200% in value would that also be tax free? How do you think the franchise owner are skirting their tax bill??

Isn't Engel the primary backup at CF?

Emilio Bonifacio.

I'd put the over under at $20m.

For sure that makes sense. I was just making sure you were in fact ignoring the facts that don't support your complaints.

Why mention Keuchel and not Grandal/Hendriks?

Oh great, you have testimonial evidence that completely undermines anything that widely known and understood. Which teams were ran by the "several analysts" you know? The topic at hand is about executives in the front office so not sure how your hoards of analyst friends apply. Though it is amazing none of the several people you know were able to keep a job in sports during covid. As for the second part, that's you twisting words to beat down a narrative you want to beat down. White people have a better shot at obtaining anything in this country because they make up more than half the population. But yeah you're right, every white executive in baseball got the job because they know someone and it had nothing to do with the ivy league resumes, top MBAs/JDs, etc. It's all about who you know. Andrew Freidman learned how to build without a payroll because of his dad's buddy, Rick Hahn negotiates contract extensions better than anyone because his uncles knows Reinsdorf, etc. The only person belittling here is you. Did you read the article that started this topic or are you just trying to poke holes in my posts talking about a subject you don't seem to understand?

I don't know what they offered in terms of $ but I know they had an offer and Harper loved the Sox presentation and specifically hit it off with Kenny Williams. So when they offered the most for Wheeler, what happened? Wasn't a serious offer?

For sure but the hope would be for equity in opportunity and not necessarily outcome. While it would be impossible to have the demographic breakdown of executives in baseball to mirror the population of the country, it should be more closely aligned with the demographics of the game. For instance, Kenny Williams broached this issue in reference to AA's but it would seem the Latino community is the most excluded. Looking at the demographics of Ivy League schools, the Asian demo is typically double and sometimes 4-5x their population of the US. African American population is typically underrepresented with exceptions (Harvard, Yale). The white population is underrepresented in almost every case usually making up 40-45% of Ivy League schools with the population of the country making up more than half. In every case, the Hispanic population is underrepresented in the Ivy League. Digging into these demographics the conclusion to take away isn't really about whites or black people as they are both slightly underrepresented to their proportionate share of the population. The takeaway is the Latin community is significantly under represented and the Asian and Jewish populations clearly prioritize higher education and have the means to send their kids there leading to these demos being over-represented to their proportionate share of the US pop by multiples. Looking at the demographics of the MLB, whites and Asian American are slightly under-repped. African American are more significantly underrepresented and the Hispanic population in the MLB is much higher than the relative share of the USA population. Why is there no one clamoring for more opportunity for Hispanics in the front offices when the severity of the lack of representation is so much higher? Given the Hispanic population has almost 2x the US population as AA in the USA and 4-5x the population as AA in the MLB, you would think they would have representation somewhere near their relative share of the population. I can think of an Irish ex, Black exec, an Italian GM, an Armenian GM, Chinese exec, etc. but can't think of one Hispanic. In any case, if you look into the numbers after KW's comments and you find yourself wondering why the Latin pop is so underrepresented. For one thing, the majority of Hispanics in the MLB came to America because of baseball. Surely a part of this discrepancy is due to the fact that a good deal of these guys don't really have any interest in living a Western life and will return to their home country when their playing days are over. To me, the league has to do more to attract young black kids to the game and the relative share of execs will bounce when the relative share of the game's population increases. Crazy how much the black population in MLB has dropped since the 80's. Getting equal representation of Latin's on the executive side seems to be a much bigger issue and much more complicated to fix as this group is typically not American-born or high school educated.

So you're saying they didn't offer Machado, Harper, Tanaka 100M+?

McHugh trashed Reinsdorf publicly when the Sox didn't call up Eloy. Not sure the Sox would go after him or may he wouldn't be interested in the Sox. The Sox win all of those trades handedly and the other teams would not do them.

I know you're set on your narratives but their largest offers ever were to 3B, RF, SP, SP, etc.

Yeah this is more of a class issue than race issue. The elites can afford to send their kids to Ivy League schools and pay for it. Operations in sports is of the absolute most competitive fields to break into in for Ivy League grads. If you want to work in a front office, you have to be a former player or have Ivy League background (or ND, Stanford, etc.). I wish I could have cashed in on being white to work in a front office but I didn't have the resume (not a player, not Ivy League) and I had too much student debt to work in a role where I was "earning my stripes" or basically being an apprentice. It is crazy how competitive it is. Hahn tried to hire Brewers GM David Stearns before the Mets did. Sox liked him but didn't have the room. That guy is now a top 10 exec in the game.

It used to be public who was reacting to posts, wonder why that changed.

Team looks great. I love the energy Green, Jones and Ayo bring off the bench. Green is just all over the place. Jones can really get up there and brings an urgency to the rim that should help in times when Lavine/DeRozan get rest. Ball has been just incredible. I knew he was a pest on D and just a smart player with great spatial awareness but did not expect the 44.4% from 3. Maybe it won't last but seems he's made some meaningful improvements and I just love that he's spotting up with confidence. Obviously his jumper has come a long way but even last year where we he was improved over his career norms, there was a hesitancy in his game. Now he spots up and puts it up. Plus, he is just outstanding on the break. I wanted him last year but so far he is passing my expectations with ease. Looking forward, should be interesting to see how the team addresses the Patrick Williams hole. Past that, I just want to see to Lonzo with the ball more late. If DeRozan is going to ISO or work for his buckets great but otherwise I want more Ball ballhandling late and less Lavine. Lavine's ball security and decision making late is a bit of concern.

I am confused why you were applying a trend that was broken but whatever. Not sure what the point of going into "if COVID never happened" when it already happened.

MLB Revenue was down 65% in 2020 why would you continue to increase by 8%? Also, the luxury tax number doesn't go up directly with revenue so why would you expect spending to?

Should be a lot of Tony Bradley if Vuc misses the trip.

There is no reason Conforto should have taken the QO. Even with compensation attached, Conforto will get at least 3x as much as the QO amount and maybe up to 5x-6x the amount.