November 23, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said: whoa. Is there a reason he was so good in 2021 vs being so bad the rest of his career? Any underlying changes? If not, this scares me as I'd rather get Tepera for 2/14 or something. Edited November 23, 20214 yr by Squirmin' for Yermin
November 23, 20214 yr Get good value for Kimbrel and we’re in business. That’s a very solid deal for Graveman
November 23, 20214 yr I think that's a good deal, I do, it's just hilarious nonetheless. $38 million currently tied into 3 relievers. I think we can buy the Guardians roster with that.
November 23, 20214 yr Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Wonder if Kimbrel deal is imminent now I had the same thought.
November 23, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: whoa. Is there a reason he was so good in 2021 vs being so bad the rest of his career? Any underlying changes? If not, this scares me as I'd rather get Tepera for 2/14 or something. Can anyone shed light on this great question this poster asked?
November 23, 20214 yr I am not familiar enough with Graveman to comment but seems like a lot of years and guaranteed money for someone who has had 1 good (okay amazing) year out of the pen in his entire career. It is puzzling how much money is tied up to the pen at this point.
November 23, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: whoa. Is there a reason he was so good in 2021 vs being so bad the rest of his career? Any underlying changes? If not, this scares me as I'd rather get Tepera for 2/14 or something. One of the failed starters who clicked as a reliever.
November 23, 20214 yr Just now, Chisoxfn said: I am not familiar enough with Graveman to comment but seems like a lot of years and guaranteed money for someone who has had 1 good (okay amazing) year out of the pen in his entire career. This is where I am at.
November 23, 20214 yr Just now, Chisoxfn said: I am not familiar enough with Graveman to comment but seems like a lot of years and guaranteed money for someone who has had 1 good (okay amazing) year out of the pen in his entire career. Pretty sure he has a super sinker and a great clubhouse guy
November 23, 20214 yr Just now, bmags said: I wonder if this is actually a Tepera replacement. Probably.
November 23, 20214 yr Just now, bmags said: I wonder if this is actually a Tepera replacement. Maybe they just plan on replacing Kimbrel with Tepera and Graveman - so 2 set-up type guys for price of one closer who sucks as a set-up man? Still TONS of money to the bullpen. I will say I like fact that he is a groundball pitcher. He wasn't great in his stint with Houston (when he moved out of the cavernous safeco park).
November 23, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, bmags said: I wonder if this is actually a Tepera replacement. It’s your righty set up man....this should assure everyone that Kimbrel is long gone
November 23, 20214 yr Was not expecting a deal for Graveman, but I like it. Solidifies the pen and all but guarantees Kimbrel is gone. I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded within the next couple days.
November 23, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, bmags said: I wonder if this is actually a Tepera replacement. I think we'd be hard pressed to sign two relievers at ~8 mil this offseason.
November 23, 20214 yr Apparently he found out in 2020 he had a tumor in his spine which was the reason for his switch to a relief role. Less stress on his back.
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