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It shouldn’t be.

The Leury Garcia deal - while bad - is so overplayed by Sox fans. $5M AAV in literally micenuts for an MLB org. We're talking about like 2.5% of the payroll.

I was referring to coming off 2020. Carlos had made 7 starts in 2 years, his results when he did pitch were awful and he had just gotten done embarrassing himself out of relief in the biggest game the White Sox had played in 11 years. There’s a reason he took a 1/$3M deal.

Haven't laid my two cents on this deal.....but IMO, guaranteeing Los that kind of $ is sort of crazy. Of course the Yankees can afford it, and I am genuinely happy for him. He is an easy dude to root for. But if we are to assume the Sox will continue to operate as they always have, paying Rodon $27M a season over the next 6 seasons would certainly become a major issue. Maybe not in 2023, but certainly before long. I will take the under on average of 20 games started per season over the course of this deal. You likely end up paying him $1.3-1.5M+ per start. That's a lot. Coming off the 2020 season, before he took the 1/$3M deal with the Sox for 2021, I was pushing for the Sox to put an option heavy contract in front of him. Something like $2/15M, with several options starting at like $12M on the back end, increasing each season. Most here thought I was nuts --- would have worked out quite well for the Sox. Of course Boras probably wouldn't have let Los take that, but at the time, he didn't exactly have a boatload of options as he was 1 more injury away from being an milb deal guy at the time.

The ex-Sox bullpen and OF are rough. Those teams play 10 times, I am going with 5-5. .500 is the White Sox way, afterall. Of course, the Sox also don't even have an OF atm.

I’d be much more interested in Escobar than McCann.

Sure, but it’s also extremely believable. JR has a clear history of getting in the way.

It’s been outwardly reported that JR didn’t let his FO offer the QO.

Hard to imagine how brutal the fan base would be right now had Tony not gotten fired….errrrr, stepped down.

Yeah, I guess. But you're paying him regardless so may as well try to make something of it. I guess if you use the saved $ to turn around and sign Conforto, perhaps get Biggo back in the deal as well, and have a trade lined up to get some back of the rotation SP depth for Seby, I could live with it. But its just a weird strategy.

Two years of an above average catcher should have value. Its just a bad fit. Jansen isn't even a guarantee to be better than Yaz in 2023, and Yaz isn't moveable and Seby isn't optionable. So we're blowing our main trade chip that theoretically still allows us to compete to get a third catcher, meanwhile leaving our 2 gaping holes in the OF unsolved, and 2B still a bunch of rookies, and still paying Yaz $18.25M? It doesn't make any sense.

"White Sox biggest lineup deficit is their catching" is really all I needed to hear to know this guy doesn't know jackshit beyond the Jays perhaps being interested in Liam. Trading Liam for Jansen would be an awful move for the Sox. The Jays also need LH OF so they can't really help us there. Do not like them as a trade partner at all.

He's certainly not been great since leaving Pittsburgh. But a player than can cover 2B and the OF would be pretty valuable to the Sox. Profar and Drury are really the only 2 left that fit the bill. Profar hasn't played much IF last couple seasons, and Drury hits RH. So neither are perfect. So Frazier was kind of the guy that made the most sense. I probably would have passed for $8M as well, tho.

Bummer. Kinda wanted him tbh. A couple mill more than I’d thought he’d get.

This is starting to feel like the Herb Lawrence thing, and nothing comes off this imminently.

Likely because the same guy that brought this rumor up mentioned Gallo and the Sox about half a dozen times the same day. IDK, just a guess.

Do think Kepler is a really nice fit. Just would be really surprised to see MN move him to the Sox.

I don't even think its based on anything. Just people saying "Oh, no! Not Gallo! How about Benintendi instead?!" I'd be floored if the Sox signed Benintendi.

I will take the over on $14-15M AAV for Benintendi in this market.

Sure. I'd prefer Conforto myself because, like I just laid out for you, he rakes RHP which is a very big need of this team. But yeah, Bellinger would have been just behind Conforto on my list.

You'll find a way, I have no doubt.

OK? Pay the man 2/$30-35M with an opt out after 2023 if he wants it.

We know.

Yawn. Who cares about batting average. Conforto is career .265/.371/.502 hitter against RHP. He mashes RHP, which is precisely what this club needs. Is there risk with him being out last year? Yeah, that's why you'll be able to get him on a shorter term deal. He's not old.

Pham would be OK as the 4th OF / Colas insurance. Certainly not as the primary OF addition.