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The ranking among our OF prospects is somewhat irrelevant. He do have an abundance of good OF prospects, but that doesn't mean we should sell low on them. As I just said in the post above, I'd be fine moving Rutherford in a deal, but not in a deal for a guy with 2 years of control in a window that is unlikely for hte team the be competitive. And to answer your question, I would put him 4th or 5th. Eloy, Robert, Adolfo, Rutherford/Basabe, Gonzalez. I think Rutherford, Basabe and Gonzalez are on about equal footing in terms of future value IMO, though I am not saying they are comparable players.

I agree that Rutherford is a guy I would be OK losing. But not for 2 years of Joc Pederson. I'd trade him a significant piece of deal to get a controllable SP. But not 2 years of control of Joc Pederson when the Sox are still unlikely to be competitive.

Yah, personally just not a huge Alfaro far. I also think Cease is a better get than Sanchez, mainly because he's closer and more certain to be a big leaguer, so that helps close some of the gap. Mainly just playing along with the question, tho.

Same. I wouldn't trade Rutherford for Joc straight up.

I think Joc is fairly valuable to the Sox if they land Machado. I understand that you likely disagree. We have a black hole in CF for the next 2 seasons at least. I think Bummer + Fulmer is a pretty good trade for the Sox, I just personally like Fulmer and would like to give him one last real shot at a pen spot without jerking him around.

I'd love to do that deal without Fulmer, but gotta give something to get something.

In other news, the Marlins are going to be really bad next season.

I'd says Cease, Collins and Flores is as close to a comp as we'd get. Alfaro was more highly regarded than Collins at one point, but his stock has definitely faded.

I was moreso referring to a discussion about fan and fan interaction regarding Machado. If they don't know how good the guy is, their opinion on the matter is rather worthless. Obviously the common fans opinion is valuable to the organization itself. Not sure how you categorized that as gatekeeping, but whatever.

Who even cares about someone's baseball opinions who doesn't know that Machado is one of the best players in the league. Its a worthless opinion.

I completely agree. Didn't love the Narvaez trade when it happened - and as the RP market has developed, it looks even worse. I was all for moving Narvaez, but didn't really get it for a appropriately paid solid RP on a 2 year deal, when similar assets were available for the same or less cost on the FA market. At the end of the day, I just don't think there is a large market for bad defensive catchers, with minimal track record and a perhaps flukey season of success under their belt. But I too would have held onto Narvaez if the best return was Colome - all things being considered.

Perhaps, but I don't blame Harper one bit for rejecting an early offseason offer of 10/$284M or whatever the exact dollar amount was.

Agreed. But acquiring one of the best few catchers in the game certainly can't hurt their chances of luring Harper (or Machado).

Call or Rosario?

It likely does just the opposite,

Indians don't report until next Tuesday, so still a little time.

His Jordan tweet kinda sorta insinuated it happening today.

Still think Kluber is the wild card. If the Tribe is serious about trading Kluber, the Dodgers are a great fit with Verdugo as one of the main pieces.

In what world is Machado not a household name? He is hand down one of the best 10 players in MLB.

Sanchez, Alfaro, and any of Moniak/Hasley/Medina would be a home run for the Marlins. Phillies getting this done probably increases chances we end up with Joc as well.

Now this is intriguing....

That is not really what Gomez said at all.

If the Sox get him signed, I hope it’s a straight 7 or 8 year deal without opt outs or swellopts, honestly.

I bet they wait until 2020 as well, but since his clock is ticking, that changes the calculus a bit. If he sitting on the minor league DL, they certainly would wait until 2020.

Per the Twitterverse. Just off the top of my head, that seems to like he would be ahead of schedule.