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Don’t do that to me!!

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Unless they're exceptionally confident....

To be fair, he was referring to the season. To paraphrase, he basically said..."we'll have a surprising season. Lots of surprise. Lots of surprises.".

Giant mess is a bit of overreaction. Jay can be released at minimal cost, and the Sox would definitely be able to trade Alonso.

This is very important and way too often ignored here by the folks that look at things so black and white.

Not quite. Pederson is due $5M in 2019. Pollock will be making $13-14M.

Acquiring Realmuto is going to cost them. Dodgers giving up Ruiz, Pederson and Urias for Realmuto and also landing Fry and maybe a guy like Flores/Lambert from the Sox as well doesn't seem so terribly lopsided.

I agree with your first paragraph. Your second takes is a bit far. There is some value to whatever Pederson provides in 2019, and certainly 2020. He is an enormous updates over Engel. I do agree that a big part of his value is showing MM you're serious about putting a decent team together for him in 2019. I do think adding Pederson, Machado and a decent 5th starter gives this team at least a punchers chance in easily the worst division in baseball. That is worth something. But, I do agree that it is not worth trading Rutherford, even if you're not in love with him. I would, however, trade Rutherford for a controllable SP - hence my suggestion of somehow getting Urias back in this proposed 3 way.

This. Trading expendable pieces or relievers is one thing. Trading legitimate prospects is another.

Sure, but ya gotta give to get. They'd be getting the best catcher in baseball for Ruiz, Urias and Pederson, and a stud LH relievers with control. Sox may need to give up a little more in that trade - add Yolmer and give him to whomever wants him between MIA and LAD. Dodgers receive: Realmuto, Fry & Flores/Lambert White Sox receive: Pederson & Urias Marlins receive: Kiebert Ruiz, Rutherford, Yolmer Sanchez and Delmonico

Maybe more like..... Dodgers receive: Realmuto, Fry & Flores/Lambert White Sox receive: Pederson & Urias Marlins Receive: Kiebert Ruiz, Rutherford, & Delmonico

HARD pass on this for the Sox. Assuming Ruiz is Dodgers Keibert Ruiz and not our Ruiz, but still....I am not trading Rutherford for 2 years of Joc.

Hunter Strickland to Mariners on 1 year deal.

Sooooo....have to imagine LAD is either in discussions to ship Joc somewhere, or include Verdugo in a deal of Realmuto or Kluber. Cleveland would probably take Verdugo and Joc, their OF situation is pretty sad.

Taylor probably going to play 2B fulltime next season tho, no? Infield from left to right: Turner, Seager, Taylor, Muncy Outfield from left to right: Joc/Kike, Pollock, Bellinger If they want Verdugo in the outfield everyday, likely have to move Joc.

Yah, was just coming here to say that exact thing. Herrera is 3-4 years younger than Brach and has quite a bit more upside, but yah... Brach at $3M is a VERY nice deal. Surprised more teams wouldn't be interested..

There is an "offseason moves" thread....

Yah, that'd probably be more fair. I'd love to hang onto Fry and Frare personally.

If Hahn can land Pederson for Bummer and Delmonico ---- that'd be impressive.

cutch was smart to jump on that deal when he did.

5 years yes, but only $60Mish.....not bad at all.

5 years and $60M is super interesting. obviously longer than what everyone wants, but I was thinking he'd get closer to Cutch's 3 years $50M. I'd definitely take the extra 2 years and $10M.

If we don't sign MM, I'd rather just roll with internal options. Maybe even give Fulmer one final last shot at starting, though I am now mostly convinced he's a RP if anything in the bigs.