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His raw talent is off the charts. His inability to stay healthy saddled with a poor organization has probably beaten him down mentally where he doesn't care anymore and he's probably pissed he wasn't traded.

Correct. Sox blew leads in the 8th inning (Leasure) in the first game and in the 7th inning (Soroka/Schuester) in the second game.

I have been in the sports media since 1978 yes, but to me that's irrelevant. They made Getz explain his restrictions on the managerial search. They asked him directly if the decision on the hiring was his, they specifically asked about what TLR's relationship is to the front office, the directly asked about the fact the Sox don't pay managers well (unlike the Cubs) and would that make an impact and they specifically asked if JR understands what is going on (the implication that at age 88, he may be losing his mental faculties) and tried to get a time line with one host saying he has elderly family members who could be dead before the Sox are good again. Yea...that's a damn good interview and to an extent put Getz on the spot. What would YOU have them ask?

Of course the wild card in everything moving forward is how long JR owns the club. The 'rebuild" could be even longer if new ownership arrives, fires everyone and literally has to start from scratch.

Very good point but then again JR likes Stone the same couldn't be said for Benetti.

The radio hosts asked good solid probing questions and didn't mince words with Getz. That's why.

Third straight win by the Cubs this year over the Sox and all by the same identical score of 7-6.

I thought this was a very good interview. Getz was adamant that the managerial hire is his alone, talked about TLR's role, talked about JR and said the Sox have no plans to shut down Crochet for the season:

Very good point. He'd block anybody left and right who dared criticize the organization or the front office. Maybe he's finally seen the reality of things under JR.

Exactly.

The other thing that stood out to me in his show that I posted the link to, was him saying that Getz absolutely had a hand in hiring Grifol, it wasn't just Kenny and Rick.

I was told Hahn was getting upset that Renteria wasn't doing what he asked and what he wanted specifically I don't know.

Heard from a long time friend and source late last night who has been around the Sox for years. He just passed along some thoughts on the changes and the individuals involved. Some of them seem to show some promise...let's hope so: "Grifol - held mandatory BP before every game starting with the last three games of the first half until his firing." "Montoyo - nice guy still gun shy from his firing in Toronto, never spoke to White Sox media." "Tosar - Grifol friend from Miami days, another KC refugee" "Rodriguez - offense was so bad that Eddie never got a chance to show why he was the worst third base coach I ever covered." "Bourgeois- should have been reprimanded after taking a batter off to take a dump. Lots of runners got picked off." "Barfield - Sox had their choice of Jake McCarthy or Dominic Fletcher. Barfield, who came from the DBacks, chose Fletcher. How’s that working out?" "Gene Watson - THE WORST! Glorified spy for Dayton Moore in KC, would have been fired last September had Getz not hired him. He scouts all over the country for players the Sox have no chance of signing. Knack for posing with celebrities or famous ballplayers and putting them on his social media account. Spent more time on the KC side during a three-game series at Guaranteed Rate, bothering the hell out of Bobby Witt Jr. during pregame BP to talk to Gene’s guests. Already has Levine and Merkin wrapped around his finger. Known as a consensus scout who can’t form an original evaluation." "Katz is tied to Bannister, so he’s safe." "As for the new coaches, Doug Sisson is a red ass who should have been hired years ago just to get in the faces of Grandal, Moncada, Anderson, etc." "The sudden rise of Mike Gellinger, who Konerko adored. Gellinger makes so much money that Cleveland wanted to hire him but couldn’t match the money."

https://awfulannouncing.com/mlb/chris-russo-jerry-reinsdorf-white-sox-mlb-network-rant.html https://soxmachine.com/2024/08/pedro-grifol-white-sox-fired-reaction/

BA in my opinion does have meaning but it depends on the player himself. Craig Grebek or Ozzie wasn't expected to hit for power and drive in runs. Iloy as big as he is, as massive as he is, SHOULD be hitting home runs and regularly getting extra base hits to drive in runs. He did in in 2019 and 2020...then he dropped off the face of the Earth. So him hitting .500 is great but it's not what the White Sox expected from him and I suggest neither is Baltimore.

Here's another one. Two items in it got my attention. Cameron Maybin went after ownership and JR and A.J. said he's let JR know many times he'd like to help the organization and JR has never gotten back with him.

Both.

The Royals are now pretty good they don't want him back or need him.

Saw this on Facebook:

The Sox wasted over 20 million bucks on guys who are or were horrible this year and some of those have already been released or traded. Just wasted JR money, a lot of it which continues a pattern of wasting money on stiffs, has-been's and retreads for a decade now.

That appears to be the case next season, another dismal year of ineptitude.

Here is another one that I just read: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/08/08/white-sox-pedro-grifol-fired-grady-sizemore-chris-getz-jerry-reinsdorf

Very true and JR's ego is such that he won't admit things are failing badly. He still thinks his way to win will work.

Getz eliminated anybody currently on the Sox staff when he said they are going outside the organization. (Now we will see if that comes to pass...)