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We'll to be factual the last time the Sox trailed in the 7th inning or later and came back to win was back on July 30 vs. the Yankees. Haven't had one since. Maybe they are saving them for the final two weeks?

Good question. Maybe he was about to be made a scapegoat?

Cleveland lost, can the Sox FINALLY, one time, take advantage and put some positive momentum into what has been a death march? I'd feel a lot better if they had an actual competent starting pitcher going tonight instead of yet another bullpen game but as Kenny once said, "It is what it is..."

"Don't tell me what you hit, tell me WHEN you hit..." - Hawk Harrelson.

You may be right but if that's the case he better hope that sentiment doesn't go public because the fan base will be after him with pitchforks for wasting a possible playoff opportunity. (To say nothing for how the players would react...) I use the term that the Sox make the playoffs about as often as Republicans win the Mayorship of Chicago. When you get half a chance to do so, you have to take it.

I can almost guarantee the Sox aren't going 11-4. Far to many issues right now.

Actually in my opinion they just needed two starting pitchers and a hitter. It didn't even have to be a catcher but please continue with your notion of having to basically replace everyone. 😆 Getz f@#$%^ up big time...you know it, I know it and I'm guessing in his heart of hearts he knows it. Although as I've stated to be fair, we don't know what restrictions JR may have placed on him.

That is certainly possible since it appears a lot of these guys / team were playing over their heads this year. But with the uncertain labor situation I don't think JR will allow a "significant" amount of talent to be acquired.

Especially if as stated many of these guys are in their first year and are "gassed." I think that's the case, which meant getting productive players to help these kids was EVEN MORE imperative at the deadline.

Let's just say the pitching matchup tonight on paper doesn't bode very well for a team hitting around .200 for the month of September.

Cleveland has made the post season in seven of the last 10 years. I can only speak for myself but I'd LOVE for the Sox to have that record even if they didn't do s$%^ in the playoffs. At least if you get to the post season you have a shot. It sure as hell beats what the Sox have been doing.

That's how I feel... today for example it's yet another 'bullpen game' because the starting pitching is crap and Castillo is going to be used as part of it. If ever they needed to beat the odds and get a win, today would be the day.

JR isn't going to fire him and admit for all to see his judgement in hiring him was completely wrong. Ishbia will but not JR.

Agree with a lot of this but again, to be fair, JR is still running the show and history shows that JR's main concern is "fiscal responsibility" (his own words). That doesn't give Getz a pass for his stupidity but things may not be totally in his control.

Valid point but do you throw those kids into the middle of a divisional race? Is that fair to them?? Personally given the situation the Sox are in, flushing a season right down the toilet, I would, but the indications are Getz won't. Maybe that changes in the next few days if they continue to suck. One thing is for certain, I believe, either they pick themselves off the floor in Cleveland and regain some momentum then be able to use the rest of the schedule to their advantage...or they roll over and die and we won't have to worry about things.

Pham has had one at bat and then promptly got hurt. He is a waste of roster space and based on his clubhouse explosion at the MLBPA rep just a few days ago is a head case. With respect he's the LAST thing the Sox need. getting someone who could actually play and make a difference is what they needed but Getz had other ideas at the trade deadline or was under orders from JR.

I get your comment, I was basing my comment on the fact that like Dunn, he strikes out a ton but has the capacity to hit a lot of home runs.

The Sox aren't going to get rid of a #1 draft pick without giving him a LOT of rope. But like I've said before, he's Adam Dunn who happens to be able to play the infield pretty well.

Pham was on the Red Sox when he was coaching there.

And I'm guessing at least some of them were wondering what the front office was doing at the trade deadline compared to some other clubs.

Now 3-9 in the last 12 games. Have scored three runs or less in eight of those games. Castillo pitches Saturday, based on what he's done so far this year AND with the Sox, they'll be out of first place by Saturday night most likely. Those trade deadline deals SURE have helped this club! LOL 😄

Six factoids today: September 12, 1900 - The White Sox beat the Cleveland Blues 12-4 and 9-1 in Chicago to clinch the franchise’s first pennant. However, the American League wasn’t recognized as an official Major League at the time, that would come the following year. Roy Patterson got the win in the game. The season seemed to set the tone for the franchise, exceptional pitching and defense with just enough hitting to win games. Cleveland manager Jimmy McAleer said as much after the Sox clinched against his club. “It's the strangest thing that ever happened. A club with no good batsman to win a flag! Why, such a thing was never heard of before. Manager (Dick) Padden has done most of it. He has been the whole works, and has shown himself a born general. The pitchers did the rest, with special credit to that lad Patterson.” September 12, 1922 - After three straight singles by Cleveland to open a game at Comiskey Park, the White Sox executed their eighth triple play ever. It was a bonkers play, which started out as a routine double-play grounder from second baseman Eddie Collins to shortstop Ernie Johnson to first baseman Earl Sheely. Cleveland left fielder Charlie Jamieson scored from third on the play, but for some reason the runner who started on second base, shortstop Bill Wambsganss, went for home as well; Sheely fired home to catcher Yam Yaryan for the out (and yes, the White Sox once had a catcher named Yam Yaryam). The White Sox still were routed in the game though, 8-2, yielding 17 hits. September 12, 1976 – At nearly 53 years old, “Minnie” Minoso became the oldest player in Major League history to get a hit, singling in the second inning of a 2-1 White Sox win over California. Angels starter Sid Monge surrendered the hit. Minoso would later strike out and fly out to left in the game, won by the White Sox on Brian Downing’s walk-off double in the 10th inning. Both Monge and future Hall-of-Famer Rich Gossage went the distance in this meaningless September game between teams with a combined record of 125-160. September 12, 2016 – The White Sox tied an unusual franchise record as they beat the Indians 11-4 at U.S. Cellular Field. In the game the Sox scored at least one run in every inning. It was only the 20th time in Major League history that a team had accomplished this. The Sox banged out 16 hits, Avisail Garcia getting four of them. Six went for extra bases. The first time the franchise accomplished this was May 11, 1949 beating the Red Sox at Comiskey Park. September 12, 2019 – All-Star right-hander Lucas Giolito set a White Sox record by striking out eight straight Royals hitters from the third through the fifth inning during an afternoon game at Guaranteed Rate Field. Of the eight, seven were swinging strikeouts and Meibrys Viloria was caught looking. The run started with Whit Merrifield to open the third and ended with Nicky Lopez grounding out to shortstop Tim Anderson to end the fifth. Giolito finished with 12 strikeouts overall. Carlos Rodon (September 30, 2016, against the Twins) and Joe Cowley (May 28, 1986, at the Rangers) previously shared the White Sox consecutive strikeout mark at seven. According to STATS, Giolito’s eight straight tied for the seventh-longest single-game MLB run at that time. But even with his brilliant afternoon he lost the game 6-3 giving up a pair of home runs, one of which was a three-run shot which made the difference. September 12, 2020 – For the second time in his career Sox first baseman/DH Jose Abreu had himself a game to remember. The slugger drove home seven runs in a 14-0 slaughter of the Tigers at Guaranteed Rate Field. The team record is eight in a game. Jose first did this in 2016. He went 4 for 4 and scored five runs. Abreu became the first White Sox player in club history to get four hits, two homers, seven RBI and five runs scored in a game. It was also his 17th multi-home game.

Agreed

My point is that's what happens when your offense is home run or nothing and you've got guys up and down the lineup who can't get on base.

"Luck is the residue of design..." - Branch Rickey.