Everything posted by Lip Man 1
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Poll: Who will be the next starting pitcher not currently on the 26
Not only that but more importantly keeping the pitchers they do have healthy.
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Davis Martin to IL, McDougal optioned to AAA, Urquidy & Schweitzer recalled
A lot of people here were saying the Sox needed two starters, Getz thought otherwise. Time will tell if that decision proves to be a mistake. Personally I think it will be.
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Davis Martin to IL, McDougal optioned to AAA, Urquidy & Schweitzer recalled
I guess it's better than having only two starters like in October 2020. Some things never change I guess.
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8/14 Gamethread - White Sox at Tigers - 5:40PM CHSN - Newcomb vs Jobe - Skin the Cat
It's unfortunate that once again the Sox find themselves having to use an opener/bullpen game because they simply do not have enough starting pitching. It comes at a really bad time as well. https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/08/13/chicago-white-sox-cincinnati-reds-brouhaha/
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This Day In Sox History 8/14...
EIGHT factoids today: August 14, 1910 - The Sox celebrated the first sellout in team history at Comiskey Park when over 26 thousand fans poured in to see a double header split against the New York Highlanders (Yankees.) August 14, 1911 - Ed Walsh pitched the 17th one-hitter in White Sox history, shutting out the Tigers, 2-0, at Comiskey Park. The one Detroit hit came in the sixth inning and was a near-miss, as catcher Oscar Stanage sent a ball back through the box that Walsh stopped, but missed Stanage by a step at first. Walsh faced just 29 batters in the game and improved to 20-13. August 14, 1915 - The Sox purchased the contract of pitcher Claude “Lefty” Williams from Salt Lake City of the Pacific Coast League. Williams might have been inducted into the Hall of Fame for his abilities if not for the 1919 “Black Sox” incident. In his four seasons he’d go 81-44 for the White Sox. Twice winning over 20 games. August 14, 1919 - Center fielder Oscar “Happy” Felsch tied a Major League record by recording four outfield assists in a 15-6 loss to the Red Sox at Comiskey Park. In that same season, Felsch ended up setting a record for outfielder double plays in a season, with 15. August 14, 1939 – It was the first time a Major League night game was played in Chicago with the Sox besting the St. Louis Browns 5-2. Johnny Rigney got the complete game win with 10 strikeouts before over 35 thousand fans. After he retired Rigney would eventually become a vice president with the team. August 14, 1983 - Catcher Carlton Fisk appeared to hit a go-ahead home run in the fifth inning off the Orioles Scott McGregor only to have home plate umpire Jim Evans overrule third base umpire Greg Kosc and say it was a ground rule double. The decision was based on the impression that a fan appeared to have leaned over the wall to catch it. The Sox wound up losing 2-1. That fan then called Jimmy Piersall’s radio show afterwards to give his side of the story. TV replays showed he was not leaning over the wall when he caught the ball. Manager Tony LaRussa went ballistic…arguing, kicking dirt, then taking the third base bag out of its position and flinging it towards the Sox dugout. Naturally he was thrown out for it. Just another in a series of bizarre plays that took place against Baltimore down through the years. August 14, 2008 - White Sox outfielder Carlos Quentin set the Major League record when he was hit by a pitch for the sixth consecutive game. Quentin would get hit 20 times in the 2008 season. August 14, 2008 - In a 9-2 win over the Royals at U.S. Cellular Field, the Sox would hit four consecutive home runs for the first time in franchise history. The four came in a six run, sixth inning and were hit by Jim Thome, Paul Konerko, Alexei Ramirez and Juan Uribe in order after two were out. It was the sixth time in Major League history a team hit four home runs in a row at the time.
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The Glaring Question - Sox Starting Pitching
Not disagreeing. But there may also have been other restrictions that we know nothing about and never will.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
Sure anything can happen but like Detroit the Cubs are red hot right now with Milwaukee right in their sights.
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The Glaring Question - Sox Starting Pitching
I agree with this caveat. We don't know how much if any input/restrictions JR had in the situation at the deadline. And a blister on the pitching hand isn't a phantom injury.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
It ALWAYS comes down to pitching and the last 15 years or so the Sox are usually short in that crucial area.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
Win a game in Detroit and you are still in first place. Get swept and you're not...with the Cubs just waiting licking their chops.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
From Sox Machine: *Venable said the Sox are undetermined on their starter for Friday, and that Martin will need to be evaluated for his blister.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
Going into the Detroit series Sox have lost 6 of 9. Tigers have won 8 of 11. The Sox are the first team they've played this month who have a winning record.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
Realize what matters is what happens on the field but the Athletics daily baseball newsletter "the windup" projected the last six weeks of the season today. They have Detroit winning the division, the Sox not making the playoffs and the Cubs winning theirs.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
A lot of things are taking place at exactly the wrong time of the season, pitchers hitting their limits, bad weather, a lot of extra inning games and what sure seems to be a lack of starting pitching that wasn't really addressed at the deadline. Not a good combination.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
He appears to be Adam Dunn only he can play pretty good defense. To be fair though he's still a young player.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
Historically it seems the Sox always seem to be short in a vital area and it always seems to bite them in the ass. In the early 90's it was another good hitter for the lineup behind Thomas and Ventura. The players, like McDowell told me, though McGuire was coming, but then Frank wouldn't move to DH and that went out the window. In 96 it was a bad bullpen and the Sox did nothing at the deadline which saw them blow an almost certain wild card spot. Then in the early 2000's, 2003 comes to mind, it was the lack of a decent backend starter. I still remember Kenny Williams saying the price for Kenny Rogers was "too high." Rogers went to the Twins and helped them win the division. In 2020 as mentioned it was little starting pitching. As other have said it seems to be happening again.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
We'll never know, it didn't seem to be that high for other "contending" club though was it?
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
Or JR didn't allow him to? Fegan with some interesting notes, comments on Martin: "Discussion around Davis Martin still sounds like a pitcher trying to manage a physical issue of some stripe. "Your mechanics, the way you feel physically, the way they feel mentally is going to change throughout the year and you have to figure out how to find the best version of yourself, and some of these guys are being challenged to do that for the first time, or being challenged in ways that they haven't had to find solutions for before," Venable said. "There's some mechanical stuff that he's working on, some things just as far as whether it's grips, tapping into some shapes. Also just physically, this guy has pitched so much this year and he's done so well and really carried a load. That's going to take a toll, and he's got to figure out as his body changes how to make sure that he can keep his mechanics and every thing in line." Martin has a 6.83 ERA with a 14.4 percent strikeout rate since June 1, and the White Sox have gone 4-8 in those 12 outings." Like Southside posted the pitching staff may have reached their limits overall.
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8/13 Reds at Sox 12:10 PM
Losing two of three at home to a bad Reds club is an embarrassment. Martin has simply sucked since the break, four straight games he's given up runs in the first inning and put his team in the hole. Including Thursday’s shortened start, he has allowed 23 runs over his last five starts, with 15 of those runs coming in the first inning. Fedde has also regressed since he's been moved to the bullpen.
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Benetti's new job...
Awful AnnouncingJason Benetti set to add NBA play-by-play to his NBC work...Jason Benetti, NBC's lead Sunday Night Baseball voice, will call regular-season and playoff NBA games for the network this season.
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This Day In Sox History 8/13...
Five factoids today: August 13, 1943 - Future Hall of Famer, shortstop Luke Appling collected his 2,000th hit in a game. It came against the Red Sox helping the White Sox to a 3-2 win. The hit drove in a run in the first inning off of Cecil “Tex” Hughson as Wally Moses scored. August 13, 1954 - Sox pitcher Jack Harshman who is tied for the franchise mark for most strikeouts in a game, notched another milestone. On this date against the Tigers, Harshman pitched all 16 innings in the Sox 1-0 win at Comiskey Park. The Sox finally plated a run in the last of the 16th on a triple by “Minnie” Minoso scoring Nellie Fox. Harshman allowed nine hits and faced 57 hitters. Incredibly Detroit’s Al Aber also went the distance in the contest! Billy Pierce also threw 16 innings for the Sox in a game in 1959. The franchise mark is held by Ted Lyons who threw 21 innings in a game in 1929. August 13, 1967- All season long the Sox battled the big boys, the Tigers, Twins and Red Sox in the greatest pennant race in American League history. This game marked the beginning of the end of the dream. The Sox lost a controversial game to the Twins 3-2 when Tommie Agee was called out at third base on a close play in the ninth inning. He doubled to center to lead off the inning and tried to stretch it into a triple. The Sox dropped out of first place for the first time in two months as the Twins swept them three straight games in Minnesota. After the game manager Eddie Stanky kept Vice President Hubert Humphrey waiting outside the locker room with reporters saying, “Humphrey can’t hit, what do I need with him?” August 13, 1996 - Sox third baseman Robin Ventura slugged his franchise record ninth grand slam leading the Sox to an 8-4 win over the Yankees. It came in the fifth inning off of David Weathers and erased a 4-1 New York lead. August 13, 2002 - Sox infielder Jose Valentin homered from both sides of the plate in the same game. He did it in Texas off the Rangers Dennys Reyes and Todd Van Poppel. The shot off Reyes was a grand slam. He drove in six runs in the 12-3 win. Those were his only two hits for the night. Valentin first did this trick in 2000 and would do it a third time in 2003!
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Fegan Departing Sox Machine
Good point and the way things are going they may be in first place by next week.
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Fegan Departing Sox Machine
I don't think he's full time with the Sun-Times. I think he is more of a stringer for them.
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And that's another bounce back WHITE SOX WINNER
Castillo throws his best game of the year AND Romo hits a home run????? The Pope must have been involved.
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An ominous future...
1981 is also included although you may not have been around. And yes the owners are willing to piss that away.