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Well over the years I've seen a lot of mediocre/ bad/awful/ has been pitchers shut the Sox down. I hope they can light the guy up and save the bullpen.

Magic number to win division:

Any win right now is a big win. Fedde has been an unsung hero for this club, he's saved their asses a lot. They did just enough on offense but man that has got to get better. The bottom three in the order tonight 0-9. Not good.

Peters and Beni should both be in the lineup. They need all the offense they can get. I'm not a fan of this lefty/righty stuff when the guys who are playing are worse than the guys who are sitting. You're running out of time and can't be doing this nonsense.

Good luck with this.

Speaking of keeping Castillo around who now isn't even pitching: From the MLB.com site: The Phillies have claimed right-handed pitcher José Urquidy off waivers from the Chicago White Sox. To make room on the 40-man roster, right-handed pitcher Caleb Kilian was transferred to the 60-day injured list. Phillies President of Baseball Operations Dave Dombrowski made the announcement. Urquidy, 31, has appeared in 11 games this season between the Pittsburgh Pirates and White Sox. He made one start on Aug. 24 against the Texas Rangers, however his last three appearances have all come in relief. On Aug. 30 against the Twins in Minnesota, he allowed one run over 5.0 innings. On Sept. 3 in Houston against the Astros, he tossed 1.0 scoreless inning. And, on Sept. 8 against the Pirates, he allowed two runs over 4.0 innings. Combined, he has a 2.70 ERA over his last three appearances (3 ER, 10.0 IP).

They way they have played the last few weeks coupled with the disastrous trade deadline, it's hard not to think this way. Up to the players to prove otherwise.

All I can say is good luck.

Very true, thanks!

Six factoids today: September 17, 1955 – “Jungle” Jim Rivera was quite a character when he played for the White Sox and after a home run he hit in Kansas City helped the Sox beat the A’s 12-8 he made an impression on a former President and his wife. President Harry Truman and his wife Bess were frequent fans at Athletic games and after the game ended Rivera and teammate George Kell were outside the stadium when they noticed a crowd. They walked over and discovered it was the former President. Rivera asked him where his wife was and Truman said she was in the back seat of the car so Rivera leaned over and introduced himself by saying, “I’m sure sorry my home run beat your club but it was a helluva wallop eh, Bess?” September 17, 1971 - The White Sox defeated the California Angels 9-4 at Comiskey Park. An unusual event marked this game. All nine players in the White Sox lineup that night got one RBI, including pitcher Bart Johnson, who started, gave up eight hits and struck out 12 in going the distance. September 17, 1983 - Before a packed house at Comiskey Park, Harold Baines hit a sacrifice fly driving in Julio Cruz with the run that won the American League West title for the Sox as they edged Seattle 4-3. The Sox went to the playoffs for the first time in 24 years, drew a then record, season attendance of over two million fans and had the best record in baseball at 99-63. They’d win the division by a record 20 games over second place Kansas City. Baines drove in three runs that night and had a solo homer. September 17, 1984 - Harold Baines became the only player in franchise history to have more than one game with three home runs. Baines had his first three homer game in July 1982. On this day at Minnesota, he’d club three more in the 7-3 win. He’d drive in four RBI’s. September 17, 2007 - The Sox tied the club record for the most runs ever scored in the fifth inning of a game when they sent 11 guys home at Kansas City. In addition to the 11 runs, they also collected 10 hits and three homers, one each by Danny Richar, Jermaine Dye and Josh Fields. Richar, Jerry Owens and Fields all had two hits and Fields drove in four runs in the inning. Four times the Sox have scored 11 runs in the fifth inning in their history. This was the last time it had been done. September 17, 2020 – In the most bizarre, strange, unusual and “Twilight Zone”-like season because of COVID-19, the White Sox made the most of it clinching a spot in the expanded playoffs coming from behind to beat the Twins 4-3 getting two runs in the seventh inning to do it. The win ran the Sox record to 33-17 best in the American League on that date and put them in position to win their division for the first time since 2008, which was the last time the franchise made the postseason. They ended the shortened season a game behind Minnesota and lost to Oakland in the first round of the playoffs two games to one however because they lost eight of their last 10 games.

Very easy to say but very difficult to do given all of the shortcoming you just listed AND let's not overlook the fact that for a bunch of these guys this is the first time in a pressure situation with a lot on the line. To me mentally and physically these guys look like very, VERY little is left in the tank. That's why it was so important to get help at the trade deadline. Instead the organization got dogshit players.

And God knows how the pitching is going to be lined up. "Openers" for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😆

Fegan quoted Venable in a Sun-Times story saying x-ray showed no break but "he can't swing the bat." (direct quote) He's going to be out me thinks more than a "couple of days."

Bonemer won't be called up, they aren't starting his clock for a handful of games.

Absolutely. Some were saying how long the odds were of the Sox pissing everything down the toilet. Looks like said odds aren't so long now are they? They could easily finish with a losing record after being nine games over on August 29. That would be pretty incredible.

Sure bring on the lock out. ☹️

This is the 125th season for the Sox franchise. 1901-2026.

You can't but never underestimate the stupidity of this organization.

Absolutely correct. Since the start of 2007 only five winning seasons. That's near the worst in MLB. Five winning seasons and one of those was a bastardized 60-game schedule.

Someone once asked Jack McDowell why the Sox haven't won more. He didn't mince words. "Because we've had bad owners, bad G.M.'s and bad players..." That will certainly do it. 😄

Castillo appears to have been regulated to the deep end of the bullpen in 'lost cause' situations. Some deadline pickup eh?

Give him points for having the stones to be there, JR certainly wouldn't. And when all is said and done as others have pointed out, Ishbia holds all the cards, I'm sure he'll make some smaller concessions like a good negotiator but the citizens group has very little leverage in the matter.

It won't be Getz as long as JR still runs the show.

From Fegan's post mortem story: "After a 1-for-8 showing on Wednesday, the Sox are 14-for-72 with runners in scoring position (.194) over their last nine games, and 3-for-14 with the bases loaded. The one hit came from Pham. If the White Sox evaluate, they have 10 games left, are even with division-leading Cleveland in the loss column, and are in possession of a tiebreaker and a relatively soft closing schedule. They also have a high-power, low-contact offense that’s tilting toward the latter trait in crucial moments, their heavily-used bullpen cornerstones are faltering, and are depending on rookie David Sandlin in the rotation this week, because trade deadline headliner Luis Castillo has pitched his way out of their immediate plans." Chicago Sun-TimesSputtering White Sox fall out of AL Central lead for the...As the Sox sink to 5-10 in September, the strengths that powered their surprisingly strong start to the season are no longer in place.In another story Fegan writes that C. Montgomery's x-ray came back with no break but that he "can't swing the bat" according to Venable. Of course one can say that he wasn't able to swing the bat even before he got hit based on his miserable second half.

Just got back from physical therapy. Glad I missed this again. Welcome to second place. 5-12 in the last 18 games. Tom Petty's song, "Free Fallin'" is going through my mind. Again a starter is only able to go four innings which put a strain on an overworked bullpen. And yet AGAIN another clutch two out RBI hit kills them. Now they face a hot Tigers team back in the race. I'm sorry but these guys look D.O.A. Just somehow scrape together five more wins, call it a winning season and head to the golf course.