Lip Man 1

As I've previously posted given the limitations imposed by the owner, can you think of another way to try to win? The only way I can see is what they are doing, keep trading guys, keep getting back young, cost controlled talent and hope it works. Now if you can convince JR to really open his checkbook, fire his toadies and bring in established winning baseball executives I'd be happy to try another way. Until then just hang in there and see what new ownership brings.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/05/30/whats-left-for-a-15-42-white-sox-team-pedro-grifol-reinsdorf

Many would say they already are.

Yet he continues to make money, a lot of it, so how much he really cares at the age of 88? Nobody knows for sure.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/05/29/chicago-white-sox-pedro-grifol-jerry-reinsdorf/

Pedro is now left with these postgame comments to DVS of the Sun-Times: “We have to continue to grind, continue to work. There is no magic wand here. No magic remedy.” ?

They should but they won't be...unfortunately at least not yet.

They scored a paltry 18 runs the entire seven game homestand.

It depends on how old you are. For example I was born in 1955. I was 13 before I even knew what a losing White Sox season was. The time period from 1951-1967 was excellent. 1972 (Dick Allen) and 1977 (South Side Hit Men) were memorable years. The "new look" White Sox from 1981-1985 had a good run. 1990-1996 was nothing to complain about overall. Then 2000-2006 was very good with a World Series title. Since 2007 though basically it has been dogshit.

I predict by the All-Star break this team will be 40 games under .500. Right now 27 under and counting. Hope they roll over and die to the Brewers at least that would screw over the Cubs.

Again I think it is something just inherent in the organization, it's now a losing culture at all levels and in all departments. Only thing that cures it is new ownership firing everybody on the baseball side and basically starting over like an expansion team.

Agreed and the fact that JR apparently hasn't blown a gasket over this as fiscally responsible as he claims to be, like I said, is mind-blowing. This has gone on for over a decade. Yet he draws the line at doing what is necessary at bringing in "superstar", "franchise changing" talent. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

https://awfulannouncing.com/mlb/angel-hernandez-ozzie-guillen-white-sox-drunk.html

We are fans of the relationship between the team and us as a fan since in most cases the Sox have been a big part of our lives. That is hard to just let go of when it has been part of your DNA for decades.

It's probably a combination but I highlighted the area I though was most impactful. Since the start of the 2007 season the Sox are one of the worst franchises in baseball. Players know this, agents know this, baseball executives know this. It's now a culture of losing which permeates the organization from top to bottom. It's almost like, 'If you aren't good enough to play for a decent team, hook on to the White Sox..." They are willing to take almost anybody. Not saying the players aren't trying but after spending a decent amount of time with the club, reality and human nature set it. Plus it is not like the Sox are even attempting to bring in quality players anymore, unless they overpay who is willing to join this incompetent, dysfunctional and inept organization? New ownership has to come in, fire literally everyone on the baseball side of the operation, from the G.M. to the doctors and trainers and all in between to make a statement to baseball that things are going to be different. Then maybe change can come into play.

Sox about to lose their 7th straight. Honestly hope they lose something like 12-15-17 straight.

Pedro knows where his bread is buttered doesn't he: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/05/28/white-sox-manager-pedro-grifol-says-he-hears-enough-from-jerry-reinsdorf-to-know-he-wants-to-win And yes, JR wants to win BUT he wants to win his way and history shows his way does...not...work.

It's absolutely incredible to me that JR who apparently wants to win "so badly" and is so fiscally responsible hasn't blown his top over the millions and millions of dollars wasted on has-been's, injury-prone guys, dead beats and stiffs. Just mind blowing.

The circus just never ends does it? ?

He was the definition of an arrogant umpire who thought fans were coming out to see him.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/mlb/2024/05/28/former-mlb-umpire-angel-hernandez-calls-of-shame

Depends on your definitions doesn't it? From 1981 through 2006, the Sox under JR had 16 winning seasons, got a brand new taxpayer funded stadium and were competitive. They also drew well (when JR wasn't sabotaging things with his break the union and White Flag Trade mentality) As far as teams that consistently put out legit contenders, here is my list: Yankees, Red Sox, Rays, Astros, Phillies, Braves, Brewers, Cardinals, Dodgers, Giants. The White Sox are in the 3rd largest market in the country, they have huge advantages over the other teams in their division from an advertising, marketing and broadcasting standpoint , MLB considers them a "major market" team (which is why under the new draft rules they have to pick 10th next season). The only thing stopping this franchise from having consistent success on the field (and that doesn't mean making the playoffs every year or getting to the World Series consistently) is one person and one person only...JR. Period, end of story. His arrogance, his ego, his delusion that he knows the "right" way to run a franchise, his insistence that loyalty is more important than winning and his demand that he be involved in literally every...single...major...baseball decision is destroying the franchise. When new ownership arrives it offers the franchise a chance to start over with talented baseball people in the front office and on the field. At that point where GRF is located won't mean diddly s%*#.

Very possible since the timing is so unusual right after two months of the season.

Better late than never, he should have been fired years ago after one horrible call after another after another. C.V. Bucknor needs to be next on the list to go.

“This is not about wins and losses. This is about the responsibility we have as individuals and as a team to come out and give the very best we have every single day.”---Pedro Grifol Good thing it isn't about wins Pedro, because you aren't getting many of those for the rest of the season.