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Since the start of the 2007 season they have had only five winning years. One of those was a pandemic shortened 60 game season. We shouldn't be surprised.
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And that's a 17 hit, 12-3 White Sox Winner!
Lip Man 1 replied to chitownsportsfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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Jimmy Piersall told me the same thing when I interviewed him. Said Bill was a fraud. Sox historian Rich Lindberg felt the same way about him. ML: I guess this is a good time to ask your thoughts on Bill Veeck. Too many Sox fans he was the Pied Piper for the common fan, he saved the franchise from moving to Seattle in December 1975 but others have suggested that the man the fans saw, was different from the man who tried to run the franchise. Is that a true statement? JP: “I would say so. He was a fraud. He never had any money to run the team with. Harry didn’t like him either. One day he was talking with some people, I happened to be walking past, and I heard him say “(Eric) Soderholm just can’t play third base.” Another person then said, “Yea but who else are you going to be able to get?” That just about sums things up.
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May 26, 1959 – Sox owner Bill Veeck was always good for a crazy stunt but this one topped the cake. Before a game against the Indians, midgets dressed up as Martians ‘landed’ at Comiskey Park (via helicopter) and ‘captured’ Nellie Fox and Luis Aparicio. One of the midgets was Eddie Gaedel. Terms were discussed for releasing the two Sox players when the Martian leader, (Gaedel) said "Don’t bother taking me to your leader (Veeck), I’ve already met him." Gaedel, of course, came up to bat for Veeck’s St. Louis Browns in 1951. May 26, 1968 - In an effort to jump start a stagnant offense, Sox manager Eddie Stanky batted pitcher Gary Peters in the #6 slot in a game in New York. Peters who had 19 career home runs, was listed in the order ahead of Luis Aparicio, Duane Josephson and Tim Cullen. The move didn’t help though as the Sox lost 5-1 to Mel Stottlemyre. Peters went 0 for 2 in the contest as the Sox only managed four hits. May 26, 1976 - Recently acquired pitcher Ken Brett nearly threw a perfect game and then a no-hitter, only to lose it on a controversial ruling by the official scorer. In a night game in Anaheim, Brett had a perfect game for almost eight complete innings before walking Leroy Stanton. Then with two out in the ninth inning of a scoreless game, Jerry Remy hit a ground ball that Sox third baseman George Orta badly misplayed, with the ball going under his glove. Official scorer Don Merry of the Long Beach Independent Telegram called it a hit. Other writers disagreed with the ruling, the Sox players were incensed and radio broadcaster Harry Caray went crazy on the air but the decision stood. Former Sox player Bill Melton would get a clean single with one gone in the 10th inning ending the controversy. The Sox would finally win it 1-0 in 11 innings on a single by Russell “Bucky” Dent. It was their 10th straight victory. May 26, 1996 - For the first time in franchise history the Sox hit four home runs in an inning. It happened in a 12-1 rout over the Brewers at Comiskey Park. In the eighth inning Frank Thomas, Harold Baines, Robin Ventura and Chad Kreuter all found the seats. Thomas, Baines and Ventura went back-to-back to back. The first three home runs were hit off Mike Potts, Kreuter went deep off former Sox pitcher Ramon Garcia.
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They face another stiff with a sky high ERA tonight too, maybe they can actually score three runs! ?
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That's the White Sox way.
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Past time to get Anderson out of the top of the order
Lip Man 1 replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Easiest excuse in the world is to blame the fan base, the organization has been doing it for years...Kenny, Hahn, Ozzie, Cooper et al. It just comes naturally to some I guess easier than admitting the franchise is incompetent, dysfunctional and inept usually on and off the field. -
If you believe Garfein Yoan is gone after the 2024 year.
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May 25, 1924 - In a game at Washington which the Sox won 10-9, future Hall of Famer Ray “Cracker” Schalk caught his 1,500th career game. At the time of his retirement in 1929, Schalk had the third-most games caught all-time and second-most games caught in A.L. history. May 25, 1952 - Sox pitchers Joe Dobson and Marv Grissom both fired complete game shutouts in beating the Tigers in a double header at Comiskey Park. The Sox won the games by the scores of 3-0 and 1-0. For the afternoon Detroit only had eight total hits. Grissom would later become the White Sox pitching coach under manager Eddie Stanky. May 25, 1957 - Sox pitcher Dick Donovan hurled a one-hitter at Cleveland striking out four. Donovan allowed only a second inning double to right field from former Sox infielder Eddie Robinson in winning 4-0. He beat future teammate Early Wynn. May 25, 1973 – It was the beginning of the end for what was expected to be a stellar season. In the second inning of a game with the Indians, Sox outfielder Ken Henderson tore up his knee in a collision at home plate trying to slide through future Sox pitching coach Dave Duncan. The Sox at the time were 10 games over .500 at 24-14 with a two and a half game lead in the division. This injury started a run that saw the Sox use the injured list 38 times in 1973. Making matters worse, is that for some reason, the Sox refused to allow Henderson to have it operated on until September, meaning he was lost for the season, not that it would have made much difference considering all the other injuries that happened. The Sox would end 1973 with a record of 77-85. Remarkably he came back to play all 162 games in 1974 though and blasted 20 home runs with 95 RBI’s.
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Why did the downfall happen and could it have been avoided?
Lip Man 1 replied to Dominikk85's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Back when Jerry actually spoke with the media both he and Einhorn both said they don't believe in paying for possible "potential." -
May 24, 1929 - In one of the greatest pitching performances in the history of baseball, Sox starter Ted Lyons threw all 21 innings in a heartbreaking 6-5 loss to the Tigers. He allowed 24 hits in the 21 innings and faced an incredible 85 hitters. His opponent that day, George Uhle, pitched 20 innings and faced 79 batters himself. Only five other hurlers have ever thrown more innings in a game than Lyons, none of those from the White Sox May 24, 1946 - Sox manager Jimmy Dykes was fired by the organization. Dykes was in charge for 12 years, 13 days, the longest tenure in franchise history. His White Sox record was 899-940. The 899 wins is the franchise’s most ever by a manager. He also was involved in a footnote that could have changed White Sox and baseball history. In March 1938, the White Sox played a benefit exhibition against the Pasadena Sox, a group of young players from that California city. Holding forth on the local team was a 19-year-old black youth who made several brilliant plays. Dykes said, “Geez, if that kid was white, I’d sign him right now.” In March of 1942, Dykes allowed the phenom and another black baseball player, Nate Moreland, to try out for the White Sox. He sent them away without an offer. Perhaps he allowed the tryouts only to deflect racial criticism, since no Major League team had yet expressed any positive attitude toward integration. In any event, nothing came of it. How history might have changed if he had been able to offer a contract to that phenom, a lad named Jackie Robinson! May 24, 1961 - For the first time since the 1950 season the Sox dropped into last place in the American League for a time after they lost a double header in Baltimore 5-3 and 6-4. The plight of the Sox actually caused some Chicago aldermen in city council session to publicly ask what was going on. The Sox would rebound though to end the year in fourth place with 86 wins. May 24, 1967 - Sox first baseman Tommy McCraw had his career day. In a game at Minnesota, McCraw slammed three home runs and knocked in eight RBI’s as the Sox pounded the Twins 14-1. On the day he went 3 for 6, with three runs scored. The eight RBI’s, tied a franchise record. May 24, 1983 - The 1983 season turned around completely on this evening as the White Sox destroyed Boston and pitcher Doug Bird 12-4. Bird, who hadn’t lost a game in two years, was roughed up as the Sox blasted five home runs on the night. Greg Luzinski hit one of them which was his fifth shot in five games. It was the start of the drive that would lead, four months later, to the Western Division championship and 99 wins. May 24, 2011 - Sox outfielder Carlos Quentin wrote his name in the franchise record book when he hit three home runs in a game against the Rangers. Quentin hit them before and after a rain/high wind delay of almost three hours which caused the game to end at 1:27AM local time. He went 3 for 5 on the night with five RBI’s in the Sox 8-6 win.
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Why did the downfall happen and could it have been avoided?
Lip Man 1 replied to Dominikk85's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Simple answer: An incompetent, dysfunctional and inept front office led by an owner who feels "fiscal responsibility" is more important than winning despite the fact MLB is a 10 Billion dollar a year business. -
Past time to get Anderson out of the top of the order
Lip Man 1 replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Offensively, Anderson — who led the majors with a .335 batting average in 2019 — is ‘‘an [at-bat] away, a game away from taking off and hitting .320 the rest of the year,’’ Grifol said. ‘‘I’m not concerned, I’m not panicked.’’ ? "I’m the best player on the field every time I step on the field. I think everybody knows that." -Anderson to Merkin Wednesday. -
“Robert is just day to day,” Grifol said. “Has some soreness in his quad. But he’s good. I’m going to give him the day [off Wednesday].”
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It should stop I agree. Unfortunately the front office seems to think this is a "winning" philosophy and it filters down to some fans.
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And That's A Romy Gonzalez White Sox Winner!!!
Lip Man 1 replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
At the time of the 1994 labor impasse with MLB shut down in August the Texas Rangers were in first place in the division with a record of 52-62. Given there were only 48 games remaining the odds of them getting over the .500 mark were very slim. They would have played the Sox in the first round if the season continued. Every team in the division was under .500 at the time of the stoppage. -
More dumpster diving...that's the White Sox way!
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May 23, 1954 - The Sox quest to find a competent third baseman appeared to be at an end as G.M. Frank Lane sent infielder Grady Hatton and $100,000 dollars to Boston for All-Star George Kell. It was the first time the Red Sox had sold a player outright since the “Babe” Ruth deal. Kell’s best year was 1955 when he hit .312 with 81 RBI’s. However, he had a bad back which limited his playing time and he was traded to the Orioles early in 1956 as part of a six-player deal.
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May 22, 1928 - Sox center fielder Johnny Mostil tied former center fielder Oscar “Happy” Felsch with an A.L. record 12 chances in a 4-3 win over the Indians. Mostil took advantage of a cavernous Comiskey Park center field to grab 10 fly balls (including all three outs in the top of the third) among all the chances. Mostil also initiated an inning-ending double play in the top of the sixth, snagging a liner off the bat of future Sox player Luke Sewell. As if scampering deep to center and into left and right field for fly balls wasn’t enough of a testament to Mostil’s speed and quickness, he also scored the eventual winning run on a wild pitch by George Uhle — from second base! Mostil also had three hits on the day, scoring two runs. May 22, 1977 - Richie Zisk became only the second Sox player in franchise history to hit a home run into the center field bleachers under the exploding scoreboard at Comiskey Park. He joined Dick Allen (1972) as the only Sox players to ever accomplish it. Zisk’s blast off the Tigers Dave Rozema in the eighth inning didn’t help the Sox win however. They got beat 14-3 despite recording 12 hits on the day. May 22, 1990 - Sox catcher Carlton Fisk struck a blow for baseball traditionalists. Fisk got into a verbal exchange with Yankee outfielder Deion Sanders after the two-sport star drew a dollar sign in the batter’s box before an at bat at Yankee Stadium, and then failed to run out a pop up. Fisk followed Sanders back to the Yankee dugout while shouting, “Run the ball out you piece of s%*#.” The next time Sanders came up to bat he said something to Fisk. Carlton started to go after him when John Hirschbeck, the home plate umpire intervened. Fisk was asked after the game what else he told Sanders. "There is a right way and a wrong way to play this game. You're playing it the wrong way. And the rest of us don't like it. Someday, you're going to get this game shoved right down your throat." May 22, 2019 – It was a night of firsts for the White Sox in a 9-4 win over the Astros. Things started off in the third inning when Houston had runners on first and second with no out. Future Sox player Jake Marisnick hit a shot down to third base. Yoan Moncada fielded it and stepped on the bag for the out, fired to second baseman Yolmer Sanchez for out number two, who relayed the ball to first baseman Jose Abreu just in time to nip Marisnick for a triple play. Then with the Sox up 4-3 in the sixth inning, outfielder Charlie Tilson launched a grand slam into the right field seats. It was Tilson’s first big-league home run. It was the first time in franchise history the Sox had both a grand slam and a triple play in the same game and only the fourth time in 40 years that had happened in baseball.
