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No they do not. It is in JR's contract that he has the say to run the day to day operations of the team as he sees fit and that includes if he wishes to sell or not. The minority owners, the board of directors literally have ZERO say. That doesn't mean JR doesn't listen to them but he is under no obligation to do what they wish. Some of the minority owners were asking him to sell after 2005 but he refused. Andrew Berlin twice made offers in 2008 but was turned down.

The Sox players I spoke with didn't mind because the players got a share based on attendance. 92,000 in the stands meant a bigger payoff.

April 22, 1959 - In one of the most bizarre innings in baseball history, the Sox got 11 runs in the seventh inning as part of their 20-6 win at Kansas City. The uniqueness of it was that fact that those 11 runs scored on only one hit! It took 45 minutes to play the half inning. Johnny Callison got the only Sox hit in it. Here is the play by play from it: WHITE SOX 7TH: GORMAN REPLACED WARD (PITCHING); Ray Boone reached on an error by DeMaestri [Boone to first]; Al Smith reached on an error on a sacrifice bunt by Smith [Boone to second]; Johnny Callison singled to right [Boone scored (unearned) (error by Maris), Smith scored (unearned) (error by Maris), Callison to third]; Luis Aparicio walked; Aparicio stole second; Bob Shaw walked; EARL TORGESON BATTED FOR SAMMY ESPOSITO; FREEMAN REPLACED GORMAN (PITCHING); Torgeson walked (walk was charged to Gorman) [Callison scored, Aparicio to third, Shaw to second]; Nellie Fox walked [Aparicio scored, Shaw to third, Torgeson to second]; Jim Landis forced Shaw (pitcher to catcher) [Torgeson to third, Fox to second]; Sherm Lollar walked [Torgeson scored (unearned), Fox to third, Landis to second]; BRUNET REPLACED FREEMAN (PITCHING); Boone walked [Fox scored (unearned), Landis to third, Lollar to second]; Smith walked [Landis scored (unearned), Lollar to third, Boone to second]; Callison was hit by a pitch [Lollar scored (unearned), Boone to third, Smith to second]; LOU SKIZAS RAN FOR CALLISON; Aparicio walked [Boone scored (unearned), Smith to third, Skizas to second]; Shaw struck out; “BUBBA” PHILLIPS BATTED FOR TORGESON; Phillips walked [Smith scored (unearned), Skizas to third, Aparicio to second]; Fox walked [Skizas scored (unearned), Aparicio to third, Phillips to second]; Landis grounded out (pitcher to first); 11 R, 1 H, 3 E, 3 LOB, 10 BB, 1 HBP The 11 runs in the seventh inning are the most the Sox have ever scored in that frame. April 22, 1972 - In the first game of a double header against the Royals, Sox pitcher Wilbur Wood reached on a fielder’s choice and scored the only run of the game thanks to an error, in the 1-0 win. Wood went the distance allowing seven hits in a game that took less than two hours at Comiskey Park. The Sox also won the second game 3-2 thanks to a home run from Carlos May in the eighth inning. April 22, 1991 - Frank Thomas hit the first White Sox home run in new Comiskey Park, a two-run blast in the fifth inning. The Sox won the first ever night game in the stadium beating Baltimore 8-7. The homer came off of Ben McDonald and scored Carlton Fisk who had doubled. April 22, 1998 - Ray Durham tied a Major League record by reaching base safely three times via error in a 14-7 win over a sloppy Cleveland club. The Indians would commit five errors in the game. The second baseman reached base six times in the game, getting three additional hits, as well as scoring four runs and knocking in two. Amazingly, Durham also advanced bases on the two other errors in the game, once advancing to third due to a wild throw on a steal of second base, and also getting all the way home when his triple forced another error. Four of the five errors were committed by future White Sox players Kenny Lofton, Sandy Alomar Jr. and Jim Thome (two). April 22, 2000 - The Sox and Tigers had an on-field brawl which reminded many longtime fans of the fights from the 1950's with the Yankees. This one lasted for almost 30 minutes and saw eight players from both sides get kicked out along with Sox manager Jerry Manuel. A record number of players would be fined and subsequently suspended, 16 total for various lengths. The brawl started after Detroit pitcher Jeff Weaver hit both Paul Konerko and Carlos Lee in the fourth and sixth innings. Sox pitcher Jim Parque then drilled the Tigers Dean Palmer leading off the seventh and the fight was on. One of the more lingering memories was Sox relief pitcher Keith Foulke suffering a gash on his face courtesy of a sucker punch from the side believed to have been thrown by either Karim Garcia or Bobby Higginson. He needed five stiches to close the wound. Tigers catcher Robert Fick was seen taunting White Sox fans in the bleacher seats in right field and got deluged with beer over it. The Sox won the game 14-6 and used it as a rallying point for the rest of the season as they went on to win 95 games in route to the Central Division championship.

Another example of spending money on flotsam and jetsam but when it comes to bringing in a real difference maker, a top of the line player...the Sox balk at doing that. And I know Piscotty is probably not getting a lot but my point is Hahn has wasted millions upon millions of dollars on stiffs, has been's, injury prone players and never was's but refuses to bring in top talent with Machado and Harper being two examples. Can't go there! LOL. Instead we keep trying to find lightening in a bottle and hope. Hope is not a winning strategy.

This story really expresses how I feel about things right now. Don't know who this person is but these feelings I can relate to: https://www.southsidesox.com/2023/4/22/23693637/chicago-white-sox-enuui

I'll have the details of that bizarre inning in my This Day In White Sox History thread for April 22.

With today's technology geography doesn't matter anymore.

Good for you, can't fault you for hoping it somehow turns around.

At least they'll end the suspense quickly unlike last year when you kept thinking "they're close to turning the corner..."

This is my 63rd season as a fan and Sox historian. I must confess and I never thought this would be possible, I used to live and die with every game, being in TV normally I didn't have to get to the office in the morning so I wouldn't go to bed until I knew the final score of every West Coast game...but this organization has so completely destroyed everything that I'm very close to saying the hell with them. If the owner doesn't care about anything but being "fiscally responsible" then why should I? Even now I'm basically just checking in every so often, reading the box scores, reading the wrap up's, another two weeks and I probably will be down to just looking for the final score.

Normally I'd be hoping this disaster of a team leads to massive changes in the front office but you and I know that even if they are say 25-45 around June 10 nothing will happen. Until the owner is removed from the scene and the entire baseball side of the front office is fired nothing will really take place, and even if Hahn would somehow be promoted... another inbred member of the organization would be put in charge and yet again...nothing would change. It's just an awful position that this incompetent, dysfunctional and inept ownership/organization has put the fans in. Just makes you sick.

It's my "prediction" which is part of the thread title.

Third game this year when they had a lead in the 7th inning or later and lost the game. Most expensive bullpen in baseball. ?

All that matters is did they win the game. They didn't. Case closed...coming back doesn't mean s%*#, it still is a loss. They'll be DOA by June 1.

Rick comes up with "creative" ways to shift the blame in three months when he starts trading players signaling the rebuild was a complete failure under his watch. Those ideas being blaming the fan base and injuries among others.

But remember Rick says we are in the middle of a "window of contention for multiple championships..." LOL I wonder if in his heart of hearts he actually believes any of this.

Had high hopes for both him and Heuer after what they did in 2020 if I remember right.

April 21, 1900 - The White Sox played their first regular season game as part of the American League. They’d drop a 5-4 decision in 10 innings to the Milwaukee Brewers managed by “Connie” Mack. The 1900 season though wasn’t officially recognized by baseball since in this season, the American League wasn’t considered a part of organized baseball but was designated a minor league. Even so they’d go on to win the pennant with a record of 82-53. April 21, 1992 - In the ninth inning of a 4-3 loss to the Yankees at Comiskey Park, shortstop Ozzie Guillen tore up his knee in a collision with left fielder Tim Raines. On a pop into short left by Mel Hall, Guillen’s knee slammed into the shoulder of Raines who was attempting to make a diving catch. Ozzie had surgery and was lost for the rest of the year, only playing 12 games but through intensive off-season rehab work, came back strong in 1993 to regain his starting spot at shortstop for the eventual Western Division champions. It was the only serious injury he suffered in his 13 seasons on the South Side. April 21, 2012 – Phil Humber was a journeyman pitcher before this day. He was a journeyman pitcher after it. But on this particular day he was as good as any pitcher in history. Humber became only the third White Sox pitcher and the 21st in baseball history at that time, to throw a perfect game. Humber shut out Seattle 4-0 at Safeco Field. He fanned nine Mariners in the game and threw only 96 pitches. The closest a Mariners batter came to a hit was when Dustin Ackley lined out to Alex Rios in right field. Rios had to jump to make the catch of the ball at the warning track. There was some drama at the finish as the last Mariner hitter, Brendan Ryan struck out but argued with the home plate umpire for a second instead of realizing the ball got past catcher A. J. Pierzynski who had to retrieve it and throw it to first. A.J.’s throw just beat Ryan who might have ruined the perfect game had he been more alert and immediately started running!

I've been told his deal is up after next year.

They won't as long as the front office on the baseball side isn't cleaned out. Sox are really in a very, very difficult situation.

In 10 years Hahn has been the G.M. the White Sox have had TWO winning seasons. Two. And remember they weren't always in a "tank mode." There were years they were trying to win and Hahn couldn't even field a team to post a winning record. As far as the post season, in a supposed "window of contention?" Two first round exits, overall record 2-5. Not even in the same galaxy as what the Astros and Cubs accomplished during their rebuilds.

No that was a two homer game in Seattle. I was told by one of the beat writers at the time the reason the Sox soured on both him and Brandon McCarthy was because both weren't shall we say being 'dedicated' to their craft instead preferring the night life. They told me an example of a game before Cleveland. The Sox had video of that night's pitcher being shown and a lot of the veterans were watching it. In another location Anderson and a second player (I was never told who that was) were watching cartoons. Let's just say the veterans noticed.

Brian Anderson yet another failed Sox prospect.

This story explains why the Sox will not be for sale as long as JR is alive: https://www.southsidesox.com/2022/8/29/23325369/jerry-reinsdorf-selling-chicago-white-sox-not-on-his-life

I agree it is important but I think I read where for the first time ever, MLB teams are getting more money from media contracts then they are from attendance.