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Yes.

Thorpe is a nice player, but he is not the key player in their rebuild. Schultz, Smith, and Taylor all have way higher upsides and should all get an audition by early 2026. It will be interesting whether this is a cut and dried thing or if Thorpe rests and rehabs to try to avoid surgery. If he had surgery now, he’d be ready by Opening Day 2026. If he goes like Davis Martin, God only knows what a return might look like. I feel bad for the player, but he’s not irreplaceable.

First Kopech, then Crochet, now Thorpe. Sox love TJS obliterating early years of control. They need to sacrifice a goat or something to change the luck.

Karma for Cards not giving up anything in the trade.

Berroa will come in handy in case they need someone walked or a wild pitch.

Uh oh. Who would you give rotation slot to for the rest of the year? Personally, I would say Mason Adams, but Bush needs to be added at the end of the year and Eder and Iriarte are already on the roster. Please not Nastrini.

5-15 about the right age to live to see the next SoxFest.

In the Sox defense, maybe no one there knows enough about baseball to give a clinic.

I can see where the Sox talked themselves into Vargas. They were asking for a top 50 prospect, Vargas had been that. Keaschall is not that highly regarded and he’s a 2b. If you don’t think the bloom is off the rise with Vargas, maybe you talk yourself into him. I never liked the player when he was a top 50 prospect, so as a failed ex-prospect with no defensive position, I really don’t like him. But I am just a fan. Hopefully Sox scouts are way smarter than me. I have never seen Keaschall play. Maybe his numbers are a product of the Texas League.

I thought this thread was to predict something more glorious: when they can Pedro. Have no idea, or interest really, in when they win again.

Possible you just don’t trade with the Dodgers. They know which of their players are good.

They are off today. Play in Minny tomorrow.

Reinsdorf doesn’t have to sell, you know. He could just relinquish being the majority partner. Let someone else run the team. Maybe Mellody Hobson. She’s smart enough to fire Getz, conduct a real search, and then let the professionals do their jobs. I think she already owns more of this team than Reinsdorf anyway.

I get that viewpoint, but Grifol took an 81-81 team and made them a 101 loss team. This team should lose 100, it’s gonna lose 120. At some point you do have to limit the damage.

Cuda does it again. https://twitter.com/JayCuda/status/1818682156584964341

I keep saying this, he’s a DH. Terrible glove everywhere, although I have not seen him play 1b. Maybe he’s decent there? If he does not hit — a lot — this is going to go down as one of the biggest missed opportunities in baseball over the last decade. I would have preferred Norby/Stowers. Hopefully, he hits and proves me wrong.

Thanks for the article. Lotta great info!

Woof. They're gonna try Vargas in LF. He's not great out there, but neither is Benintendi, so maybe he can be early Eloy out there? Senzel taking ABs is really weird to me.

I think the grade really depends on how you value Vargas. If you think he is R/R Michael Busch, you could give it a C. I don’t like the player at all, so I’m in the D/F range. I hope I’m wrong and either he does have a defensive position OR can hit a fastball. I see a below average DH. I think the Dodgers felt the same way eventually. Check out the haul they got for Busch vs. Edman, Kopech, and a DSL pitcher.

Coincidentally, his projected deduct as a high school player? 2030

And if you asked how much Mike Trout was worth on the day of his birth, people would have said nothing. So what? Fedde outpitched those people’s perceived value. No one believes the Sox got fair value for him except the Sox FO.

And that is why everyone is so bummed out. On talent, next year’s team could reasonably be worse. (And still have a slightly better record.) The Sox needed a game changer for anyone to start feeling good. Something dramatic in either the draft or the TDL. Instead, they got a draft fronted by a pitcher, and a weird deadline deal that literally no one, including you, likes. Feelings of despair and ongoing doom are not unreasonable. Just cuz you don’t share them doesn’t make them irrational. Betting the under on this current FO team would have been one of the safest bets in world history. You can feel confident in the direction of this franchise. I do not share that feeling.

Kuhl serves a purpose: backstop to absorb punishment in blowouts. Berroa, Eder, Burke, and Nastrini simply cannot throw strikes. The risk you run bringing them up is that you sour on them after a small mlb exposure. See Cronin, Declan. Better to fix them before you bring them up. I certainly think that Coffey, AHT, Cousin, Mason Adams, and maybe even Dalquist could get a look and survive the experience. Position player wise, sure bring up Colas, Ramos, maybe Montgomery. I would keep Quero down just for 40 man reasons, but not a lot of reasons for optimism there based on AAA performances.

The farm system is not top tier. This year’s draft did not yield a highly thought of bat. The trade deadline did not yield a high impact bat, nor did it demonstrate competence by this FO group. There is absolutely no reason to be optimistic about the near to mid-range future of this team. I don’t think delaying these trades lowered the value of these players, but how Getz et al did at the TDL certainly lowered my expectations on what they will get for those players. I can never remember a Sox outlook this bleak. Bonemer and Wolkow basically both have to be stars for them to get out of this. Unlikely.

I want to see mlb force Reinsdorf to sell for the best interests of baseball.