Timmy U

I mean, sure, anything is possible. But where is the RSN for the Sox down there? Fan Duel South? Good luck. Nashville is no farther towards a new stadium than Illinois is with the 78. Occam’s razor says it’s more likely that incompetent org do incompetent thing.

I beg to differ on Elko’s defense. He may K in a third of his at bats, but the man can pick it at first. A huge defensive upgrade over either Vaughn or Sheets.

Sox coaches to,d him that and he finally listened in his last 5 appearances. The guy is stubborn. Certainly not Bannister’s fault.

I would love to keep Robert but I wonder if Reinsdorf is looking to dump the salary. If either Crochet or Robert is dealt, I am hoping for the Dodgers. Either DePaula or Hope seems like a good place to start. Plus, maybe we can send Vargas back to them.

Generally speaking echo isn’t mic placement. It’s usually either echo in the studio or speakers in the studio. Essentially the playback is getting into their mics. Has to do with the physical studio space. Hopefully, they’ll spend the money to get a sound engineer in there.

Vargas is also out of options. If he looks as bad as he looked last year, when does he go DFA? Spring? Halfway? Do they give him a full season? At this point he’s a sunk cost and in a tier with Fletcher, DeLoach, and Colas as a failed prospect who you may or may not want to give another shot to. He’s behind Sosa, who at least got hot at the end of the year.

This is already a radically run-starved environment. You eliminate 2-strike foul balls, no one will score and the sport will die. Why not raise the roster size to 30 and make 17 of them pitchers? That would also limit the number of pitches thrown.

Why are we talking about Mike Clevinger in a Robert trade thread? At the very least, shouldn’t this be in the “Fire Chris Getz” thread?

This Vargas trade was obviously terrible the moment it was announced, but with how bad Vargas was afterwards, this could be one of the worst trades in Sox history, non-Tatis division.

Thorpe was the major part of getting Juan Soto to the Yankees. Mena is just not that big of a prospect. I mean, he's no Mason Adams.

Where would Mena rank among Sox pitching prospects? 10th? He certainly isn’t top 5. Moving him was the right call. Choosing Fletcher as the return was where they shanked it. They should trade pitching this offseason, but they need to get actual hitting back.

Hopefully Getz learned from Vargas fiasco -- Do not package your mlb assets.

I can't do another offseason of arguing about whether the O's will trade anything of value. They won't. If I'm gonna fantasize, I'd rather fantasize about Crochet going to Boston for Roman Anthony.

Me too even though I watched him suck in AAA too. Spaced on Duke Ellis too. Only position player I missed.

There is a ton of garbage on the Sox 40 man, as befits a 121 loss team. Assuming the Sox for sure non-tender Lopez, and don't pick up Moncada option, here's how I see their 40 man moving forward into the offseason: Locks: Prelander Berroa, rhp *Ky Bush, lhp Sean Burke, rhp Jonathan Cannon, rhp *Garrett Crochet, lhp *Jake Eder, lhp *Fraser Ellard, lhp Jairo Iriarte, rhp Jordan Leasure, rhp Davis Martin, rhp Nick Nastrini, rhp *Jared Shuster, lhp Drew Thorpe, rhp Korey Lee, c #Brooks Baldwin,ss/2b/3b/0f *Colson Montgomery, ss Bryan Ramos, 3b Lenyn Sosa, 2b/3b Miguel Vargas, 3b/dh *Andrew Benintendi, of *Dominic Fletcher, of Luis Robert, of Likely On it: *Oscar Colas, of *Zach DeLoach, of Ron Marinaccio, rhp Justin Anderson, rhp Steven Wilson, rhp Who knows? Engyel De Los Santos, rhp *Sammy Peralta, lhp Gus Varland, rhp Jacob Amaya, ss Corey Julks, of *Gavin Sheets,1b-dh Andrew Vaughn, 1b I think cut: Jimmy Lambert, rhp Jesse Scholtens, rhp (returning from 60 day IL) Chuckie Robinson, c Braden Shewmake, ss Matt Foster, rhp (would require an injury settlement) Unlikely, but have to be added to protect from Rule 5: Wilfred Veras, of DJ Gladney, of Jared Kelley, rhp *Gil Luna, lhp Andrew Dalquist, rhp Anthony Hoopii-Tuionetoa, rhp I have seen a couple of places that Eric Adler and Tim Elko have to be added. That is NOT true. Both were drafted in 2022. They are not eligible until next offseason.

The Zach Remillard Era has ended. According to MLB Trade Rumors, he has chosen Free Agency. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/10/nine-players-elect-free-agency.html I figured this could be a catch-all for the billion minor roster moves the Sox are going to make as they rearrange the deck chairs to achieve mediocrity.

Meh. Dunning would be what for the Sox? Competition for Davis Martin in the middle of a rotation that's gonna lose 100 games? In the grander scheme of things, he's just a guy. I wish him well, but it's not Fernando Tatis Jr.

I gotta say, 5 years is an eternity in sports. Walker Jenkins is a potential stud, but the Sox could have the #1 pick in 2026. Guys who are really significant prospects will be nobodies and marginal players will be stars. I'm willing to say the Sox are for sure losing a 100+ games next year. After that? Who knows?

Good for him. I hope he's fully healthy. Helluva manager. Probably a HoF baseball person.

You don’t really go in for comedic hyperbole, do you?

One rumor out there is the Phillies want Crochet. Sox seem to like Andrew Painter as the lead guy. Would this board go crazy if the Sox trade Crochet and not get back a big bat? I'd be mad, but better a really good pitcher than another Vargas.

If he hits .150 and is out of options, he will get DFA after 3 months. If he can hit .220, maybe they stick with him a few years. Such an unbelievably bad trade. Jeral Perez better be a 7-time all star.

Congrats to all on making it through the worst season ever until next year.

Amaya not gonna stay on the 40 all off season, right? He is not anywhere close to an mlb player.

Gus Varland looks like a potential DFA this winter. I mean, half their bullpen looks like that. I wonder who they keep.