Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 05:57 PM) I believe that's unfair for pitchers on non-playoff teams. A starter could theoretically go 34-0 but if the rest of the team sucks, he misses the playoffs. That's not his fault. Sale is the closest example to that scenario over the past 5 years. Him pitching even better would not have made us a playoff team. So you don't think those who are torn on say Porcello and Kluber (2 I feel are likely to win) won't look at how each performed in the post season to make a decision? Of course they would.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) The Cy Young Award is for the regular season. I'm in the group that says post-season should count. Its definitely a variable people consider when voting.

They wanted to announce it Sunday but they didn't want to announce it during the Fernandez news/mourning.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 03:31 PM) After these past five years, you do both. Change players and the manager. This. Full organization cleanse.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 03:38 PM) As long as relievers are eligible, Britton has had a season that is special where the rest of the starters have been good, not great. I think Britton deserves it. Maybe Sale gets 2nd. Let's talk Sunday night. The season isn't over on Sunday for all the candidates.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Historically, top-5 Cy's and MVPs are noted as an accomplishment. Why not just hope that he wins it?

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) Hopefully Sale can finish 5th. That's about as high as he can finish unless Britton blows a couple saves. Weird thing to hope for.

Go out there and throw a CG shutout on Sunday. Unfortunately some guys in the running's seasons still continue past that day.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 03:07 PM) I'm willing to be patient and see what happens between the last pitch Sunday and Monday afternoon. Hopefully Robin won't be back. And the stuff about a new manager not making a difference shouldn't even be a topic. Robin Ventura should have never got the job, so it's just the right thing to do to end his time here, and move on. Something we should ALL agree on. Very lackluster announcement that day they announced him as manager

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) Nightengale says Sox want to keep Ventura in 2017. Hayes says he has not been offered a contract. So not mutually exclusive. Exactly. Nightengale never said a contract was offered as Hayes has confirmed there hasn't been one offered.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 02:28 PM) Are the players really attached to Robin Ventura or something? I don't think Sale is based on his comments after the incident. Guess I probably have to clarify: the jersey slashing incident.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) Even though I said this may be a nice way for robin to go out from sox, they could have easily done it without a press leak. Really dumb. Yeah literally zero point to do it this way.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 02:17 PM) I'm only not going to rage about this if they decide to sell this offseason and 2017 becomes a punt-year anyway. Then it doesn't matter WHO the sacrificial lamb is. I have high doubts about them selling.

Literally no point to trying to paint it that way. The way of making it look like hes leaving on his own terms. HE'S NO LONGER UNDER CONTRACT AFTER THIS YEAR!!! YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THIS!!!

So what prospects are we expecting them to trade away for pieces to help next year? Any takers? We know they aren't going to spend monry to bring in a top bat so this is what it is.

Considering Robin has already said he'd come if they wanted him to, Robin Ventura is your 2017 White Sox manager.

Jesus f***ing Christ

I have a feeling they move one of Sale/Quintana in a package of MLB/near MLB ready position players (along with an arm or 2), move a guy with an expiring contract for decent prospects (Melky/Frazier) and then sign cheap stop gaps/bounceback type players and claim they're trying to compete. In reality, it looks more like a rebuilding plan.

Another layer of the story: http://uproxx.com/sports/jose-fernandez-bo...-friend-text/2/

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 12:42 AM) I check the box scores and tonight actually watched the highlights, but no, I haven't been watching. I am really only watching Anderson's BA and his strikeouts vs. walks in the box scores. Very sad the Sox have sucked the last 3 years. April: like you super hyped. Also live and die every game. May: same as April. June: same as April. July: very sad but watching as much as I can. August: very sad, have given up, watch some. Sept: haven't watched at all. Extremely sad. Very sad winter is near as well. Could care less about Cub postseason. hope they lose. Those 2 sentences are literally the exact opposite lol

This morning, a bag washed up on shore close to the accident with a bag full of Jose Fernandez signed baseballs. Auction those off and give proceeds to the family.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 26, 2016 -> 11:06 PM) Just watched some pregame, Al Leiter is cynical as f***. What did he say?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Sep 26, 2016 -> 10:56 AM) Won $110 in one league, finished 2nd out of 12 in the other one. Not too bad. Nice man. When you're older and have a job you can win $770 like I did lol

QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 26, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) Who are they assuming would be the third? Burdi? I'm assuming Hansen.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 23, 2016 -> 05:13 PM) This dude got popped for drugs. http://www.baseball-reference.com/register...id=arias-000yoj My phone isn't opening the link. Can't you just post the name?