Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) I do wonder if Boston would seriously consider a trade for Q. They are set up to win now, stocked farm and Dombrowski is not afraid to deal prospects. Same thing crossed my mind the other day actually. I think they are done looking for starters but I could see them having enough to get Q still if they wanted to gut the rest of their farm. Maybe in July if Sale/Porcello/Price misses a significant amount of time.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 10:40 AM) No way they include Babe Ruth. Ruth(erford)

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) Where are you seeing this? I think he's just referring to proposed packages on here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 09:11 AM) Great. I have zero issue being stuck with a bad player making $10 million. We've had several each of the past few years. The difference here would be - if we're stuck with a bad player for $10 million it doesn't cost us a division title shot when we have to put them on the field. We're in a position where we have money available but just started accumulating decent talent. Anything that turns money into future talent is a potentially solid investment. If the Phillies wanted to give us a player to pay Ryan Howard's salary for a year, fine. If the Tigers wanted to give us a player to clear Anibal Sanchez, I'm listening. Agreed. And there's definitely alternative options out there I'd rather sign and try to trade in June/July like Adam Lind.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) Plenty of GM's go about doing their due diligence without it getting reported by the media. Cashman is more serious than many are letting on. But its not just "plenty of GM's." It's the GM of the Yankees. Anything they say or do is reported. You can't go a day on MLBtr without seeing some sort of Yankees update.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) That dude is cooked. He needs to retire. Agreed. He's a 37 year old DH. Teams won't be lining up to give up good or even interesting prospects for him in July. Just don't see the upside in signing him. There's plenty of other guys better/similar to him but younger still out there in free agency.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 08:06 AM) Judge strikes out far too often for my liking. I would be more lenient with a small sample size, but he turns 25 in a few months and is not exactly a "young" prospect anymore. Torres + Frazier ++ is what it would take, and I do not think the Yankees are willing to pay that price I have a feeling it was more due diligence as Morosi reported they've called just about every team for pitching.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) Which again means that if Q is not traded and the Sox plug a couple holes (CF and DH), they actually will have a somewhat respectable roster on opening day I agree. We are from the worst team in baseball. The only bright spot we have is that we may get beat up by most of the AL while the bad NL teams beat each other. But even then it seems like there should be some bad AL teams like the A's, Rays, and Twins. And the Royals may end up trading more of their roster as well.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 03:54 PM) He's not Sale, but he is also under control for four seasons vs. three seasons of Sale (at the same dollar cost) I'm not parting with him to the Yankees for less than Torres + Frazier + at least one more good prospect And it doesn't sound like Hahn wants to deal him for less than what they received for Sale as well.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) If I can't get Torres + Frazier plus at least one more prospect I am not sure there is a Yankees package that would make sense Torres is a very good prospect, but he is not on the level of Moncada. Agreed.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) Consensus seems to be he is on the roster until the deadline unless a team gets antsy in the offseason and offers up a haul It seems like you can say that about a lot of guys as it seems quite a few have no market (Melky, Frazier, D-Rob).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 03:21 PM) Danks was a couple of years further down the road when he got his deal. I don't think he gave up any of his pre-abr years. I think just his last year which isn't really "giving it up" since you're getting paid for what he did. Like the guys who go season by season.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:55 PM) http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id...ion-source-says It wasn't ALL of his arbitration years, but it was an early extension that obviously benefited Danks quite a bit. It's not really the same thing as the Sale, Eaton, Quintana type extensions where the player is signed way in advance of free agency but I get what you're saying.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) JOHN DANKS! Yea I really am not a fan of how Houston does business. Sox have to do what's best for the Sox but to see Jose Quintana playing an instrumental role on a Luhnow team winning a World Series would suck. When did John Danks sign a team friendly extension that bought out all his arbitration years? I don't remember this.

Daniel Hudson signs with Pirates, according to Jeff Passan.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:33 PM) Yankees coming out of nowhere. I was hoping they'd come for him. They're the best match left for the Sox. Start with a Frazier, Torres package. Supposedly they've called most teams regarding pitching according to Morosi so it kinda sounds more like due diligence on their part.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) There are examples for the other side of this, such as Singelton from Houston, and our deal with Sergio Santos Yeah where it doesn't work out but doesn't really hurt the team.

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) He's had zero pressure. It's like the pressure of a back up QB vs a starter. QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) He's not an ace. QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:06 PM) Q gets traded to a GOOD team, and he's their number 1? His numbers are going to be way worse. If you don't understand that concept you are clueless. QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:08 PM) Hey genius lol it's the same QB. Wow. You're either trolling, on some really good s***, or very stupid.

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:13 PM) If you have Ace results people will always view you as a #2 if you don't have Ace type dominating "stuff". Probably hurts that he was in the shadow of Chris Sale as well.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 12:56 PM) Those are a pair of big strong oxen to put in the corners. Grab a couple guys from the low end of the Yankees T30 on top of that and I'm all in. Judge offers intriguing buy-low appeal, as does Mateo. You're talking about him in a deal for Q. I wouldn't consider that as a "buy-low."

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 12:27 PM) This goes along the lines with my thoughts on other FA. As it gets closer to ST I would take a look at who's available and then I'd pick the guys who fit best to have a chance at returning a low level prospect at the deadline. I'm not sure Howard fits that for me. Phillies probably desperately wanted to trade him and couldn't find anything. I think even with a $1-2mm salary attached he's not getting you anybody. I'd be more inclined to look at a Morneau again or a Luis Valbuena or Rasmus, Revere, etc. Valbuena can play around the diamond and we all know there are trends in baseball. Since the Royals started it a few years ago, everybody is on the "Bullpen" bandwagon. All of a sudden, and as you can tell with these contracts being passed out, relievers are gold. The next trend I see happening is the utility player being the golden ticket. So you've seen it with Zobrist and Baez. But I think managers are trending towards "flexibility". If you stick so and so player at 2b today then you can start this guy in LF who has better splits against LHP" I can see people like Saladino and Valbuena having some extra worth to them. And to an extent Lawrie around the IF. In terms of Morneau, I just think his upside is larger than a Howard. I agree though, these FA signed to 1 or 2 year deals aren't blocking anybody and if picked off correctly should be able to be flipped when necessary. I agree with this. No one is trading for a 37 year old Howard unless he is mashing the ball. I'd rather give the at bats to someone already here or another sign-and-flip candidate.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 18, 2016 -> 11:39 PM) I actually like the Sox stable of position player prospects and I'm not just talking about the top tier guys like Moncada, Collins or even Basabe. I'd be willing to bet that this time next year a position player (other than Collins) drafted or signed in Intl FA by the Sox will be on a top 100 list. I dont know who its going to be, but there are few guys they have just itching for a breakout and those college bats they drafted last year I think will work out well. Somebody is going to explode. I like Fisher and Call a lot.

QUOTE (Fantl916 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) sure, that makes sense. just seemed interesting that his name even came up. i'd assume most would rather have a solid prospect w years of control over pineda w 1 yr hoping a) coop fixes him and b) you then sign him to a longer deal at a reasonable price I don't think anyone is saying they would take him over prospects. But as a 4th or 5th piece with the first 3 or 4 pieces being top prospects, I believe is what he is getting at.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 11:13 AM) Prior to his callup there was talk of Anderson being a centerfielder down the line. Having a glut of shortstops is a whole lot better than having a glut of 1B only or LF only players.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 11:10 AM) Not that it really matters, but isn't Torres an SS? Where would Anderson play if they acquired him? Torres isn't really close to being ready so it's pretty irrelevant for a few years. He would continue playing short stop until he was close to coming up. Great problem to have. Acquire the best talent even if there is already depth at that position and sort it out later.