Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 10:40 AM) But why? Unless the market for him just isn't there, I find it highly unlikely that Jones will ever be worth more than he is right now. The Sox need to take advantage of that. Takes two to make a deal. It's easy for us to say he should be dealt for a haul but you also have to find the team willing to deal the haul.

Jimmy Rollins signs with the Giants. Minor league deal.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 10:24 AM) Do you think it's likely that Jones is moved this offseason? Like you said, they might as well move Jones now while his value is sky high and wait for DRob to get back to the way he was before last season and flip him to a desperate team next trade deadline. I know you asked Rabbit (it's opinionated anyway) but in my opinion I'm gonna say no.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 10:21 AM) Agreed. Sox best course of action is to let Robertson rebuild his value and trade Jones and his incredible contract now. I kind of expected him to be here on opening day all along. Rebuild that value and get dealt in June or July if not sooner.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 09:44 AM) Naw Avi is our RFer! Yeah as things stand right now, definitely.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 09:39 AM) I had the feeling that the back injury bothered him more than anyone let on. He seemed to be having some pretty decent mechanical problems at points last season, and he seemed to be trying to protect his back after some deliveries. It is a complete stab in the dark, but I think the Sox got conned by the Padres, and they didn't want to make a big deal of it. I expect Shields to come back in better shape and healthy, and put up decent numbers. Exactly. So I'm expecting anywhere from solid back-end of the rotation type numbers to how he did last year (maybe slightly worse).

I wouldn't be shocked if he put up decent 5th starter type numbers and I wouldn't be shocked if he got lit up in all honesty.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 18, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) 31 starts 4.89 ERA 176 IP 129 K 155 BB 38 HR 1 CG 2 SO 14 QS Your turn This is pretty spot on to what I'm thinking actually.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 18, 2016 -> 07:09 AM) Not having read every post in this thread, I would insist that a deal with Houston start with Bregman. I understand their reluctance to part with him, but the deal for Sale set the bar pretty high. Would including Frazier, to replace Bregman at third, satisfy the Astros? I recognize that Frazier is only one season from free agency. Nevertheless, what would be a fair return for Quintana and Frazier? Gurriel would play third.

QUOTE (ventura_abreu @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) Was he previously on our 40 man roster? No.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 11:16 AM) Yeah, that their CF was injured. First Jackson and then Tilson.

QUOTE (Moncada @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 10:05 AM) If nothing gets moving today then I have a really strong feeling that nothing happens until January If today was December 23rd I could maybe see it.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 09:04 AM) We seriously need a new tweet to spice up these rumors. I cant take it anymore This x100000

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 08:20 AM) I bet Holland signs for more than we think. Probably. I bet he takes a 1 year deal with a lot of incentives though with a decent base salary. I wouldn't mind giving it to him.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 10:53 PM) What's more important to a guy from Cuba, winning the World Series or extending his career and making more millions and helping more of his family and friends? Granted, he's rich as hell already, but the money he's making can change a lot of lives. You really think winning a championship is that important in the grand scheme of things? He's complaining AFTER he's accomplished BOTH of these.

QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 10:46 PM) I would actually love to see us sign Holland. It further opens up the market for Robertson, plus adds an arm that could prove valuable come the trade deadline. We should. Just offer a million or two more than highest offer.

Could see Nats go for Holland first though.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) I'm a bit surprised its this high. I love our star power now but to me it doesn't have depth of yankees or padres, where 30 deep has players that could be MLBers. Yeah that seems a bit high right now. Guy in an mlbtr chat the other day said they could have the best farm system after the next draft.

Push for it the next 2 years. I don't see any reason for him to be up before 2019.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 02:09 PM) No kidding. Complaining you got the ball in the world series? Is this what you want to hear after spending 5 years 86 million on a relief pitcher? Nope. You know how many relievers were sitting on their couch envious he got to pitch in those games?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) I love any piece blasting Maddon and/or the Cubs, but JFC, you won the WS, what are you complaining about Chapman? You would think a guy like that would want the ball. Seems like a silly thing to complain about. Wins a world series, has just over 3 months off following and just cashed in on biggest contract for a reliever ever. Everything is coming up his way lol

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) http://nypost.com/2016/12/16/aroldis-chapm...rld-series-use/ If they didn't use him that much, who knows what would have happened (yeah yeah I know he blew the one game in the World Series but they still won that one).

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) His point is well taken, as it was my own, when we were relying on bargain basement guys to play SERIOUS roles on a competitive team. But Fowler actually was a $13 mill contract, was clearly going back to cubs, and cost a 1st round pick. Desmond also cost a 1st round pick. I get what he's saying. This is a good move for a rebuilding team. But to get upset at this signing for this team is kinda ridiculous.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 10:45 AM) But Andrew Cashner just signed a contract for 10 million. You want to check his peripherals? You want to know what Ivan Nova's about to get? $6 million is seriously nothing to get worked up about lol I don't understand some posters on here.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) Personally, it's just not in my DNA to ever turn on a White Sox game and somehow hope that they will lose. I don't care what the state of the team or organization is at that time I turn a game on. I want my team to win - always! Agreed. It will just be less disappointing (or not at all) when they do lose.